[BAILOPAN]

@ClassicGuzzi It's pretty stable and I'd love to see it out soon so I can start doing 1.8 work. From talking with psychonic it sounds like Q1 2015 is likely, but obviously holiday season is not productive

Currently, I believe 1.7-compiled plugins do not work on 1.6. However that's due to a very early change in float semantics and has nothing to do with transitional syntax.

The webcompiler is still 1.6. I can add a 1.7 mode though.

[ClassicGuzzi]

Originally Posted by BAILOPAN @ClassicGuzzi It's pretty stable and I'd love to see it out soon so I can start doing 1.8 work. From talking with psychonic it sounds like Q1 2015 is likely, but obviously holiday season is not productive Currently, I believe 1.7-compiled plugins do not work on 1.6. However that's due to a very early change in float semantics and has nothing to do with transitional syntax. The webcompiler is still 1.6. I can add a 1.7 mode though.

Thanks for the quick response! I think that I'll update my servers to 1.7 pretty soon then.

Also, I don't use the web-compiler that much, is just that it's a great tool for sharing plugins! Don't worry about it until 1.7 becomes the stable branch.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by BAILOPAN @ClassicGuzzi It's pretty stable and I'd love to see it out soon so I can start doing 1.8 work. From talking with psychonic it sounds like Q1 2015 is likely, but obviously holiday season is not productive Currently, I believe 1.7-compiled plugins do not work on 1.6. However that's due to a very early change in float semantics and has nothing to do with transitional syntax. The webcompiler is still 1.6. I can add a 1.7 mode though.

So, is there an automated script for converting .inc files now?

For instance, Timers still don't have a transitional syntax / methodmap.

[nergal]

Originally Posted by Powerlord So, is there an automated script for converting .inc files now? For instance, Timers still don't have a transitional syntax / methodmap.

something like this?

PHP Code:

methodmap Timer > Handle
{
 Create() = CreateTimer();
} 


[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by nergal something like this? PHP Code: methodmap Timer > Handle {  Create() = CreateTimer(); }

What about Trigger and Kill?

The rest of the inc file also needs to be converted as well. The name of the existing Timer funcenum/union/whatever the current name is for union (iirc it just recently changed) typeset would need to be changed during this conversion as it'd conflict with the new methodmap name.

[BAILOPAN]

I decided not to update the timer API for 1.7. It's not very OO-like to begin with and it would need many, many plugin updates. I think it's fine as-is, for now. The other Handle types were much bigger wins.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by BAILOPAN I decided not to update the timer API for 1.7. It's not very OO-like to begin with and it would need many, many plugin updates. I think it's fine as-is, for now. The other Handle types were much bigger wins.

Oh right, we never figured out how to replace the "any" type in the Timer code since 1.7 has no version of "any"

[BAILOPAN]

Hrm... 1.7 has the "any" type. Not sure where that misconception came from as I don't think I mentioned removing it or it being a reason for not doing something.

[Blocker2]

This only works in the sourcemod 1.7 developer branch right? If you run a 1.6 stable branch on your server and create a plugin using the new style you'll get an error? What is the difference between the developer branch and the stable branch anyway?

[BAILOPAN]

The development branch is where new development occurs. They rotate about once a year. Yes, transitional syntax is only available in the 1.7 compiler.

A plugin compiled on 1.7 will probably not run on 1.6, but for different reasons (floating-point semantics got a subtle change).