[MPNumB]

Found a bug...

register_clcmd() dosn't detect if player is using something like

alias hack_the_hud "something;fullupdate"

But detection of it in client_command(id) works fine. Plus works for "record" cmd - sends "fullupdate" cmd in this forward, what is realy good. =)

[ConnorMcLeod]

'fullclientupdate' ??? typo ???

Also a player can type command "record" while recording a demo, so no ResetHUD will be called.

[VEN]

Rewrote the article - mainly the "Player Spawn" section:

• Added the new efficient method.
• The old method is more efficient now:
  • No "fullupdate" command block anymore.
  • "Alive" check is moved to the function itself.
• Notified about register_event() bug (versions below 1.80).
• Notified about potential crash on some actions.

register_clcmd() dosn't detect if player is using something like Code: alias hack_the_hud "something;fullupdate"

Can't reproduce that.

[hoboman]

yay....I have found this tut really helpful, but I can't +karma u again

I have to ask one thing though.
Something tells me that the more AMXX modules are loaded on a server, the more poorly it will run. Now I see that your "more efficient" player spawn method loads the new and very rarely used hamsandwich module.
Wouldn't you agree that it would still be better to use the ResetHud way if your server doesn't have the hamsandwich module already loaded? Cause frankly I don't think it makes sense to load a new module just to use its functionalities once if there is another way to do the same thing without it.

[vittu]

Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't you be using Ham_CS_RoundRespawn and not Ham_Spawn.

Not only that but I thought I read somewhere cz bots don't get picked up as "player", but as something else unlike other bots. Strange they would have another classname, oh here it is: http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=66498

[VEN]

(For CS players)
Ham_Spawn is called on server join, spawn and respawn. Ham_CS_RoundRespawn is called only on respawn and not on actual spawn. Though in CS in the most cases it would be enough, Ham_Spawn method is still more common and more mod-independent.

new and very rarely used hamsandwich module

This statement is relative. A year or two ago the fakemeta was in the same state. And now you see it used nearly in every new plugin. Someone may code a whole new mod with hamsandwich because only with that module it can be done. Someone want to strip weapons on spawn and don't want to crash the server while doing it in ResetHUD, don't want to code complex workaround to "jump" from middle of Spawn execution to its end to avoid crash, don't want to use obsolete inaccurate set_task() method instead.

The message hooking method is obsolete. It was heavily used in AMX Mod. But now AMX Mod X provides more appropriate/accurate/efficient "direct" methods of hooking. This is a progress and you can't stop it because people always trying to find a better technical methods, trying to achieve a better quality.

[PoSiTiOn Of PoWeR]

wow this looks very cool ..
very useful

[vittu]

If we are to use Ham_Spawn, what is the best way to RegisterHamFromEntity for CZ bots? since they do not count in:
RegisterHam(Ham_Spawn, "player", "fwHamPlayerSpawnPost", 1)

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Edit: Also both bots for cs and cz bots, Ham_Spawn is called multiple (3 i think) times on their first spawn. And they are alive even before their are set on a team. I've opted to use Ham_CS_RoundRespawn for bots to avoid this.

[MeRcyLeZZ]

Originally Posted by vittu If we are to use Ham_Spawn, what is the best way to RegisterHamFromEntity for CZ bots? since they do not count in: RegisterHam(Ham_Spawn, "player", "fwHamPlayerSpawnPost", 1) -------- Edit: Also both bots for cs and cz bots, Ham_Spawn is called multiple (3 i think) times on their first spawn. And they are alive even before their are set on a team. I've opted to use Ham_CS_RoundRespawn for bots to avoid this.

Yeah you need to use RegisterHamFromEntity only once for a CZ bot once he gets into the server, and then the forwards will be triggered properly for them.
Don't really have time to explain now, but if you're unsure on how to do it you can take a look at my Zombie Plague plugin.

[vittu]

Originally Posted by MeRcyLeZZ Yeah you need to use RegisterHamFromEntity only once for a CZ bot once he gets into the server, and then the forwards will be triggered properly for them. Don't really have time to explain now, but if you're unsure on how to do it you can take a look at my Zombie Plague plugin.

I just said that... You misunderstand, I was asking VEN for a consensus for best method to do so not how to do it.