[Mr. Man]

Are there any other companies that operate using similar models like Pinion?

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Fearts You probably had a older version. The new version doesn't override your motd.txt. So when someone joins they will see the Ad, however if they type motd in chat it will bring up what ever you have in motd.txt.

CS:GO is unable to bring the motd panel back up.

[Fearts]

Just wanted to share a little info with you guys. At the start of the month, like the rest of you probably noticed, the impressions went way down. I notified Pinion and they sent me a response saying some people might not have the correct Flash player installed or have HTML disabled. I don't know how to test for the Flash player, but I did have my friend Mitch make a simple logging script to see how many people have HTML disabled.

The Email:

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Hi,

We sent out a newsletter, as of December 1st we changed the way impressions are counted. In the past, an impression was counted as a page hit, however this never guaranteed we could serve content to these players. We find that a number of people have HTML MOTDs disabled, dont have flash installed or block our ad server.

The new publishing program only counts impressions that are fully compatible with our systems, meaning only impressions that we can send an ad too.

I would recommend you reach out to your community to ensure they all have the correct version of flash installed and html motds enabled.

http://www.adobe.com/products/flashp...ribution3.html

Likewise you can load the below plugin with forces people to have a HTML motd.

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=172864



Regards,

Arthur Stelmach

This script was run over 4 days on both CS:S (6 servers) and TF2 (7 servers). Here are the results:

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CS:S logged: 4,763 unique SteamIDs

TF2 logged: 6,412 unique SteamIDs


CS:S had: 353 people with HTML disabled

TF2 had: 171 people with HTML disabled


7.4% of players in CS:S disable HTML

2.7% of players in TF2 disable HTML

4.7% of players overall have disabled HTML

[Dr. McKay]

Why would people having HTML MOTDs disabled be counted as impressions in the first place? They'd never actually request the advertisement page from the Pinion server in the first place.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Dr. McKay Why would people having HTML MOTDs disabled be counted as impressions in the first place? They'd never actually request the advertisement page from the Pinion server in the first place.

Good point, the only other way to check if flash is o is show them a hiddent page, say 2-3 minutes after they join a team, and using an flash application to check if it is disabled or not and save it into a database.

[Horsedick]

The plugin that forces HTML MOTD's to be enabled is one that really seems to stink up the minds of many SPUF, they just don't understand why some servers are like that for more reasons than just ads.

[Fearts]

Not saying anyone should put that plugin on their servers (I wont be doing so) just giving some stats.

Also, has anyone experienced their game crashing when they join the server and see the Ad? I have experienced this on CS:S and TF2 and two of my other community owner friends have also had this happen. It doesn't happen to everyone all the time but randomly it will. I sent a ticket to Pinion but I would like to see if anyone else is having problems.

[Dr. McKay]

It happened to me once lately, but I haven't gotten any complaints from anyone.

[Mitchell]

I would suspect it's the flash player in the motd window, since there a bunch of errors after watching the video in my console.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by Horsedick The plugin that forces HTML MOTD's to be enabled is one that really seems to stink up the minds of many SPUF, they just don't understand why some servers are like that for more reasons than just ads.

What other reasons? The game engine falls back to the contents of motd_text.txt if HTML MOTDs are disabled.