[Daniel.PinionGG]

Originally Posted by Horsedick I read it but not sure I either like it or understand it...I have it set to 15 seconds, IMO 15 seconds is way long enough to force on players PERIOD. Now if I understand this for those that don't like 30 seconds you want to set up an alternative that would use a rev share model or basically only pay me for impressions that are sold which are likely less than 5% LOL I mean dude these are kids playing GAMES not buying products right then and there or will click out of game to go buy something. I'm happy with 15 seconds and getting paid based on my 70% completion percentage as it is but I'd love to see the forced times just go away period cause it does make players leave and not come back.

That's correct, having a user watch half an ad isn't getting us anywhere. The thing you need to understand about Video ads is that if a user doesn't watch the whole ad, no one is paid. So the only solution we have right now is for the user to be forced to watch the ad. A 70% completion as we're currently defining it means a user watches an average of 70% of a video, what advertisers want to see that 70% of people watch the entire ad.

Going forward, if you force a user to watch half a 30 second ad that doesn't help. If you only want to force 15 seconds that's fine, but we can't guarantee all your impressions, only the ones that have ad sales. That's where we would look to bring in rev share. When we say rev share, it's nothing to do with people buying products. It's revenue share on what we get paid for the ads.

Originally Posted by serpentine The ad during map load idea is interesting. Wonder how it will be done.

We'll look to elaborate on this more soon, but it would involve a 3rd party client.

Originally Posted by Fearts @Daniel.PinionGG Have you found a solution for video buffer times? This is going to be key if you expect us to force people to watch the entire ad. Without some way to buffer a video before it's shown we will lose a % of our impressions and it will force us to increase watch times to compensate. This lose of impressions and forced increase of ad time does not make this very attractive.

The new plugin will take buffer times into account, so it will know how long was spent buffering and take that into account for how long to force the MOTD.

The key challenge we all face right now is how to monetise the users loading in through quickplay without the ability to force the video. What are everyone's feelings on what percentage of their users join through QP?

[nineteeneleven]

Non-quick play traffic doesn't effect me since I have no quick play traffic. I have actually seen impressions rise substantially the last 2 months

[Zephyrus]

Originally Posted by Daniel.PinionGG We'll look to elaborate on this more soon, but it would involve a 3rd party client.

Like players would willingly download a third party client so they can watch ads while they are playing...

[Dr. McKay]

Originally Posted by nineteeneleven Non-quick play traffic doesn't effect me since I have no quick play traffic. I have actually seen impressions rise substantially the last 2 months

Some players have started to (ab)use the "connect <ip> matchmaking" command, which acts as if they joined via Quickplay, even if the server isn't actually in Quickplay.

[nineteeneleven]

Originally Posted by Dr. McKay Some players have started to (ab)use the "connect <ip> matchmaking" command, which acts as if they joined via Quickplay, even if the server isn't actually in Quickplay.

Yea, i saw your post on that... that, can be a problem.

I dont show mid-round ads either, but does that enable them to close the MOTD before the timer runs out on the connect ad?

[Dr. McKay]

Originally Posted by nineteeneleven I dont show mid-round ads either, but does that enable them to close the MOTD before the timer runs out on the connect ad?

Yup.

[1nsane]

Originally Posted by Dr. McKay Some players have started to (ab)use the "connect <ip> matchmaking" command, which acts as if they joined via Quickplay, even if the server isn't actually in Quickplay.

This could actually be a problem, unlike the previous work around methods. Which required either editing the hosts file or downloading and installing a script to block it. Which obviously takes more times and needs a person to be more computer literate.

This time however, it's built into the game and if you are already capable of using the server browser you should be capable enough to copy the server ip and use it with this command. It's just 2 extra click before joining a server.

[nomy]

Originally Posted by Zephyrus Like players would willingly download a third party client so they can watch ads while they are playing...

Yea, I doubt this will work.

[Fearts]

Originally Posted by Zephyrus Like players would willingly download a third party client so they can watch ads while they are playing...

The only way I see this even remotely plausible is if Pinion paid the players to do so.

[Huntereb]

Originally Posted by Daniel.PinionGG We'll look to elaborate on this more soon, but it would involve a 3rd party client.

Yeah, no thanks. I'd rather sit through ads on a server-side modification rather than have to download a piece of shitware that's only reason to be on my computer is to waste my time.

Originally Posted by Dr. McKay Some players have started to (ab)use the "connect <ip> matchmaking" command, which acts as if they joined via Quickplay, even if the server isn't actually in Quickplay.

Me? All day, everyday.