[Sev]

Originally Posted by Chronic1 As for making Bill silent and have his name. I have no idea how to do that. Ill ask atomic.

Seems like a decent idea. Though Francis Bill is serviceable.

Still it seems Mi'sd character select menu plugin version of Bill with a proper bot hooked back to Nick on a map change then back to Bill on the following map would make the most sense.

His Bill is pretty much the best Bill on windows with only sometimes delayed hordes/sometimes longer hordes.

Really not a big, devastating trade off.

I use Mi's Bill with your/atomics plugin and suffer no problems. Granted I manage bot Bill because of the already said problem.

[Chronic1]

Ok Sev. Which version of l4dcsm do you use? Is it version a or b?

Ill see if i can get atomic to take a look at it and maybe we can figure out how to get bill working on windows servers.

To my knowledge, you can set the csm plugin to clone mode and when you select Bill it works without crashing.

[Sev]

Originally Posted by Chronic1 Ok Sev. Which version of l4dcsm do you use? Is it version a or b? To my knowledge, you can set the csm plugin to clone mode and when you select Bill it works without crashing.

1. I use l4dcsm_a

2. Bill works without crashing on csm_a as the HUMAN player to my continued knowledge.

As a human player

- Bill will switch back to Nick on a map change to prevent the crash
- Then he will switch back immediately to Bill on a new map
- Sometimes causes slight delays in hordes/or longer hordes due to Mii's work around
- Hands will flash periodically as part of Mii's work around

Now Bill as a bot in csm_a

- Works vocals, icons and all including all dialogue with other L4D1 survivors and/or L4D2 survivors with custom talker files

- WILL NOT switch back to Nick on a map change thus crashing the server, in earlier versions Mii coded Bill to switch back to Nick on a map change but for whatever reason never kept it with his final version.

I believe if this was restored and Bill switched back to Nick on a map change and then switched back to Bill on a new map. This might solve that long lasting crashing issue

Also on a side note.

Though it would probably be more tedious work. The Passing as it has in the past will glitch the L4D1 survivors into their usual spots as bots in the campaign.

Two solutions

1. Workaround to keep them from doing that
2. Keep them model only on the Passing

[jking]

Originally Posted by Sev Doesn't work as intended. At least with Superversus. Of the 8 survivors. It gives you often 3 duplicates of the same model and none of others. 3 Zoey's 3 Rochelle's etc All 8 survivor wasn't finished in the original thread. I don't expect it here either. No offense to the creators. Just that nobody is devoted to make this work properly anymore.

concur...

[Sev]

Originally Posted by jking concur...

Why quote an old post when this current version posted by Chronic/coded by Atomic is already vastly better than the version that was utilized in the original all 8 survivor thread?.

This current version allows for all 7 working survivors and model bill.

It checks all the models to make sure everyone has them during the map and start of the map.

It's very good in its current state.

[Chronic1]

anyone here able to test the linux version out. post some screenshots plz if you can.

[ChaoMaster]

So this isn't the 8 Survivor Mod? Im confused, which one enabled all 8 to play at once?

[Chronic1]

If you're on a windows server use allsurvivorsmod.smx

If you're on a linux server use allsurvivorsmod_linux.smx

[Sev]

Linux should be fine regarding Bill. He doesn't crash Linux whatsoever.

For windows. IF you are able to utilize Mii's Bill from the character select plugin and perhaps tinker with him a little bit.

I would still be on the safe side and keep 3 versions of the plugin.

1. All survivors linux
2. All survivors windows - with Mii's Bill with the updated bot hook changes/other changes
3. All survivors windows - with Bill model with Francis Voice/Icons - Stable

[jking]

Originally Posted by Sev Why quote an old post when this current version posted by Chronic/coded by Atomic is already vastly better than the version that was utilized in the original all 8 survivor thread?. This current version allows for all 7 working survivors and model bill. It checks all the models to make sure everyone has them during the map and start of the map. It's very good in its current state.

Yeah Sev my fault, I was a bit hasty on that not reading all the way through.