[allenwr]

cause the majority of the populas is not gay and does not support gays, and I really dislike that gay is starting to be accepted...

Why? you might ask.

We are not designed to be gay, it takes a man and a women to produce a fertalized egg, 2 women, or 2 men cannot, ever, make a fertalized egg, and using an A.I. to do it does not count, its not nature to do an A. I. Now I must go to work.

[Caesar]

I'm personally not gay but I'm pretty sure its not a choice, even though humans were not designed to be gay I guess its some sort of disease.

But still even if it is a choice so what? You can be gay if you want i could care less

[Juba_PornBorn]

humans were not designed to be gay I guess its some sort of disease.

Information: all animal species apart from insects have been proven to have homosexual behaviour. All! Now if that it's not nature or natural you tell me.

In fact ethology studys have comproved that homosexual behaviour is a very complicated part of natural control of animal populations. Which means in others words that if you grab any specie and you confine alot of individuals of the same specie in a closed enviroment 3 major things will be noticed over time on observation (atencion this has been cientificly proven):
-Unusual increase of homosexual behaviour.
-Proliferation of very agressive males (Alpha males) wich tend to be dominant bisexual with psicotic behaviour.
-And an unusual increase in suicide (which means intolerance to the hierarcky existing in the confined space searching fights to the Alpha male leading to their death or by other motives).

Now take it to human society and watch the signs. Just take a look at prisons!

[Klandathu]

I'm personally not gay but I'm pretty sure its not a choice, even though humans were not designed to be gay I guess its some sort of disease.

Not for nothing but......Are you stupid or what?
That was the most backward ass, idiotic, country ass statement I have heard.
It is not a disease, you don't fall into it...you are born that way.

[Roach]

Caesar:

This isn't, nor will ever be, a utopian Marxist society. Its been tried before, and fails because of the inherent human programming to want to gain power. Anything anyone does will effect someone else's personal liberties down the line. Not stealing, enslaving, or killing isn't the tip of the iceberg. There are SOOO many more things that can actually effect another's personal liberties.

Also, while small government is good in many different forms, it isn't what is best for the country. Look at the healthcare industry. Thats privatized and yet there are an incredible amount of Americans without heath insurance because they are too poor to obtain it. The fact that we are the only western nation not providing national healthcare to our citizens is astounding. Also, a private police force is a bad example of letting the market dictate service. Power corrupts too easily, and giving a group of people the power to enforce laws outside of the government scope is absolutely absurd. Thats a risk that I am not willing to take at all.

By the way, being gay isn't a disease or a disorder. I'm shocked you would even link the two together. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay, and people who are gay deserve to have the same rights as those who are not gay. It's the same thing as the race debate in the 1960's. Just because someone isn't a white, caucasian, straight male, doesn't mean that they don't deserve the same rights as their "superior" counterparts. The fact that you would want the government to pass legislation in order to limit someone's social interaction, just because they are different, is quite bigoted.

That is all I'm going to post for right now, as my head hurts and I didn't get any sleep last night.

[Juba_PornBorn]

Its been tried before, and fails because of the inherent human programming to want to gain power.

It's a fact that if you have power you will wanna keep it. that's the reason that no democratic goverment yet really exists. Why is it that in US and other countrys almost there are two dominant political partys? Why is it a fact the media is controled by those same leading partys? Everyone knows that news are manipulated all over. And when you search deeply enough you find out that menbers of the political partys have family wich owns great part of those media companys. Why is it that lobbys are allowed and tell me if that money invested in a political candidate is given away for free or is it a compromise that those political candidates take? So when you came to think about it it kind a looks like a controled old monarckys. The son or a family menber of the president becomes the president. People get the ilusion that their decision was free. But to what point wasn't that decision manipulated by leading elites?

[vvg125]

Dam you Roach... You basically said everything I wanted to say.... but the important thing is, the point was made.

[Cynicalkitty]

Originally Posted by Caesar I'm personally not gay but I'm pretty sure its not a choice, even though humans were not designed to be gay I guess its some sort of disease.

wow. thats.. pretty ignorant.

[Twilight Suzuka]

....a disease? What?!

Anyway, this thread devolved from the original topic, and we've said everything twice. Lock.