[Oshizu]

Hi Guys,

I've got a specific kind of problem which is freeze of server during mapchange which happens sometimes. I'm kinda confused why does it happens tho

The only clue i have is incompatiblity of engine and sm map change perhaps?
Last message before freeze srcds console shows up is:
CHANGE LEVEL: ba_jail_downfall_b6_otaku
L 12/01/2014 — 11:46:17: [SM] Changed map to "dr_missing"

It types Change Level for different map yet changes to different one
Perhaps standard valve system tries to load map from mapcycle file and other from mapcycle yet choosen by vote.

Help would be great
- Thanks

[Michalplyoutube]

Use no mapcycle? or set it back to none?

[Oshizu]

That'd be rather problematic since round end map vote uses mapcycle.
I could recode mapchooser tho to use seperate file perhaps...

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by Oshizu That'd be rather problematic since round end map vote uses mapcycle. I could recode mapchooser tho to use seperate file perhaps...

Do I need to remind you that addons/sourcemod/configs/maplists.cfg is a thing?

[friagram]

Iv had a problem with maps since last halloween update in tf2...
The server hangs for a second or so when doing mapchooser votes and setting the next map, and then when the map ends and cycles to the next map, sometimes it will hang and drop most of the clients... Taking some while to cycl.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by friagram Iv had a problem with maps since last halloween update in tf2... The server hangs for a second or so when doing mapchooser votes and setting the next map, and then when the map ends and cycles to the next map, sometimes it will hang and drop most of the clients... Taking some while to cycl.

Can't say I've seen that on my servers, but then again I usually run NativeVotes and one of the mapchoosers that support it.

[friagram]

i am using nativevotes.

Looks like nativevotes may be the problem. This started around the time valve broke the previous version.
I updated it from .7 to .8, I'll see how it goes.

[Oshizu]

Originally Posted by Powerlord Do I need to remind you that addons/sourcemod/configs/maplists.cfg is a thing?

Thanks, i should pay attention more to default configs of SourceMod i guess?

Originally Posted by friagram i am using nativevotes. Looks like nativevotes may be the problem. This started around the time valve broke the previous version. I updated it from .7 to .8, I'll see how it goes.

I belive this issue started when i've added on server voting system (Nativevotes with Nativevotes Map Chooser). I assumed that cause was nativevotes so i've switched to regular mapchooser and still crashes from time to time occured.

So far there's been no crash yet after changing convar 'mapcyclefile' to nothing and setting up maplists.cfg for mapchooser

[friagram]

Guess i can give that a shot, umc keeps its own mapcycle, and if mapchooser extended can use thst config it may do, but
I don't see why blanking out the mapcyclefile would fix the vote lag...
Is valve's system doing something horrible now?

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by friagram Guess i can give that a shot, umc keeps its own mapcycle, and if mapchooser extended can use thst config it may do, but I don't see why blanking out the mapcyclefile would fix the vote lag... Is valve's system doing something horrible now?

As far as I'm aware, TF2 uses the mapcyclefile for exactly 3 things:

• Choosing the next map if nothing overrides it.
• Populating the end of map nextlevel vote.
  • This vote wasn't working on my server the last time I was doing vote logging. It may have been because I had sv_allow_votes set to 0 at map start.
• It can be fetched using the listmaps command. As far as I can tell, this is used by clients to populate the built-in ChangeLevel and NextLevel vote menus. I have yet to log the usage of this command when doing vote testing to find out exactly when its being run.

As for NativeVotes, anything below 0.8.3 won't work properly on TF2 thanks to Valve changing the "all teams" value from -1 (or 255 for bytes, which is the unsigned value of -1) to 0. This was a game-wide change and also affects other things, such as the teamplay_broadcast_audio event.

Also, I wouldn't recommend NativeVotes 1.0.x. Not only did it have issues I needed to find out (things that worked fine in 0.8.x were buggy in 1.0.x), but Valve killed the new feature it was adding by requiring VoteSetup to have a translation phrase from the TF2 phrases. A new 1.0.x will eventually appear after I replace the existing 1.0.x's features with a more limited version that will still work.