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Old 01-31-2018 , 23:04   Re: Plugin Center - A tool for server's admin ?
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What about I build a system where anyone can submit his plugins, [...]
With all the different kind of plugins out there, and all the things that could eventually be done with them, I'd say good luck on getting people to submit their plugins to your service / tool.

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Just an idea. What do you think about ?
There has been several things, e.g. Mitch's translator on http://translator.mitchdempsey.com/ and various other things. They might be used a little bit, but I believe that they usually won't be as much as you hope for, etc.

I won't stop you from going further though, and if you have plenty of time, I suggest you start right away.

With limited time available, I would more likely suggest you to prioritize your time on what the whole community may benefit most from (e.g. in terms of useful server plugins, etc.)

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We already have issues with people posting about server crashes and lag spike and just giving us their plugin list, this would just make it easier for those people to screw up their servers even more.
It could also make it a lot easier to debug things as we already know which plugins are installed on their servers by default so we could also build functionality to allow the people to click a button or input a command and send a link or something to us with full server information? (security aside)
With that thing added as well, I more likely suggest some official AlliedModders thing being made, so servers are reporting back which plugins they use, and where MetaMod/SourceMod gives an unique server ID (e.g. based on various factors; Public GSLT SteamID, IP/port, etc.), that people can link to, which plugin list and other information about the server (obviously without any sensitive stuff like rcon_password, sv_setsteamaccount, etc.)

An option that for privacy freaks to turn off this "survey collecting mechanism", e.g. in core.cfg would be essential. It could however indicate that it may end up with limited to no support if disabled, and all such things.

That thing together with a re-developed plugin submission system on AlliedModders (eventually with support for the larger services like GitLab, Bitbucket and GitHub) could in the end do much.

Question is just, what and how much, would you (and other server operators) be ready to "feed" back?

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I suggest doing research into the (several) abandoned previous attempts at doing this.
+1.

I doubt that a such "Plugin Center" would be well-used, unless it is made (as a part of) the "official" AlliedModders way for distributing plugins, etc.
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Old 02-01-2018 , 10:28   Re: Plugin Center - A tool for server's admin ?
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I'll respond to you because you seems to have quoted all answers, I believe. It's more practical to do one grouped answer.

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With all the different kind of plugins out there, and all the things that could eventually be done with them, I'd say good luck on getting people to submit their plugins to your service / tool.
I thought about it, I think it can be achieved. I have something in mind.

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There has been several things, e.g. Mitch's translator on http://translator.mitchdempsey.com/ and various other things. They might be used a little bit, but I believe that they usually won't be as much as you hope for, etc.
My idea is not related to this. It will let the developper of plugins to do what they want, they would simply have to submit their github repo and fill a text file with configuration note (exemple; where to find config)

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I won't stop you from going further though, and if you have plenty of time, I suggest you start right away.

With limited time available, I would more likely suggest you to prioritize your time on what the whole community may benefit most from (e.g. in terms of useful server plugins, etc.)
It's not a matter of time. If I enjoy it, I do it. Simple as that.
Obviously, time slow or speed the project, right now, I have a lot of things to do and not just for AM.

I don't really look toward what the community need, since she don't ask me anything, but I rather do things that I enjoy.


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With that thing added as well, I more likely suggest some official AlliedModders thing being made, so servers are reporting back which plugins they use, and where MetaMod/SourceMod gives an unique server ID (e.g. based on various factors; Public GSLT SteamID, IP/port, etc.), that people can link to, which plugin list and other information about the server (obviously without any sensitive stuff like rcon_password, sv_setsteamaccount, etc.)

An option that for privacy freaks to turn off this "survey collecting mechanism", e.g. in core.cfg would be essential. It could however indicate that it may end up with limited to no support if disabled, and all such things.

That thing together with a re-developed plugin submission system on AlliedModders (eventually with support for the larger services like GitLab, Bitbucket and GitHub) could in the end do much.

Question is just, what and how much, would you (and other server operators) be ready to "feed" back?
I don't know.

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+1.

I doubt that a such "Plugin Center" would be well-used, unless it is made (as a part of) the "official" AlliedModders way for distributing plugins, etc.
If I make it really well and prove it's usefull and can actually speed up the process, I'm sure it will be usued.
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Old 02-01-2018 , 10:56   Re: Plugin Center - A tool for server's admin ?
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There has been several things, e.g. Mitch's translator on http://translator.mitchdempsey.com/ and various other things. They might be used a little bit, but I believe that they usually won't be as much as you hope for, etc.
My idea is not related to this. It will let the developper of plugins to do what they want, they would simply have to submit their github repo and fill a text file with configuration note (exemple; where to find config)
I know that they are not related, the point of mentioning that one was solely to demonstrate one cool thing, which still doesn't seem to be that much spread out / known by the public..

Here it is quite sad to use a lot of time to serve just 1 or 2 people, if you can do something else, where your time can maybe serve thousands at once instead.
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Old 02-01-2018 , 11:06   Re: Plugin Center - A tool for server's admin ?
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I know that they are not related, the point of mentioning that one was solely to demonstrate one cool thing, which still doesn't seem to be that much spread out / known by the public..

Here it is quite sad to use a lot of time to serve just 1 or 2 people, if you can do something else, where your time can maybe serve thousands at once instead.
Yeah... but what ? Hahaha
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Old 02-02-2018 , 23:19   Re: Plugin Center - A tool for server's admin ?
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This sounds interesting.
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