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CS-A-Roland
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Old 08-10-2012 , 20:40   i cant understand...
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so much here...

no question, AMX and AMXX are one of the greatest projects ive ever seen...
But in this board i think sometimes there push one guy another and not more. So many plugins are NOT stable, NOT working and run under "approved"... nobody seems to care that there guys wich will use it and making all right but it dont work?!
What's this?!

It can't be, that a plugin is approved and dont work correct like it should!
And here we dont talk about little bugs like a "text" wich dont goes green or something like that, i mean plugins where as example a dadabase function don't work! (this cant be since a jear, it must be all the time...)
Im talking about plugins where as example a file is completly corrupt or failed! (that happens when nobody test it in the right way, or setup a server with it, see the plugin runs, but dont use it a longer time i think)

How can this be a "approved" plugin and guys HOW you test a plugin?! Do you just type "amx_plugins" see it runs and thats it?!

Also a big problem here is the "hey its mine or mine or mine version"...
Who the hell cares wich version a plugin is, when it dont work?! And by the way... who cares who made it if it work?!

I tell you... NO f***** player! Not one...
They connect, want to play and get fucked up if there is something not working, and also the server hoster get fucked up if the server crashes on every mapchange, because one guy pushes another with its "great" work... buggy by the way!

So let's come to my person, im a guy wich helping people since 2000 to setup servers, manage them and so on! I dont get money for it, i do it because i understand people wich want to have a "good" and performent server! Wich dont like cheaters or something else and want a server to administrate it and keep it clean...
I explain what i can, help where i can and if i got the time and they trust me enough i connect via ssh and look whats going wrong!
Its not for ME, its not for any fame, because nobody then this guy knows "ive set this thing up"...
I dont play on any other server than mine! Why i should?! I wrote tutorials, build map's, make some sounds, skins a little and always want to know more about my faforite game!

But if i set up a server i want to do it in a right way or find a workaround, when there is a problem, where i cant find a fast option to fix it! And if i make something, wich works, i just give it to another guy when i test it before since weeks or months!

But back to topic, i dont want to talk about me! I just want to say, if you create something, do it right, bring it to an end, and stop pushing without a 100% test!

It's crazy how much plugins at this time making Run time error's, Invalid player messages or crash the server at last...

And No, don't try to fix the old existing plugins, create new because one guy more thank you so much for it...
But think about my words, the "end user" wich just want to play and have fun, dont care it!
And everybody flames to valve about "fixing" stuff... but what's this here?!
Nothing else...

GreeZ...
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Old 08-10-2012 , 21:19   Re: i cant understand...
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TL;DR (but I will later, when I am more awake)

It appears you are complaining about broken plugins that are approved. If you find an approved plugin that does not function as advertised, please report it so an Approver can take a look at it. We typically do not test plugins ourselves because we simply do not have the time (nor is it a requirement of ours for us to test all plugins), we rely on the public letting us know how it works. We also do not re-review plugins once they have been approved, so the author can basically modify it afterwards and nobody sees it. Now this is not always the case, but as you can tell, we have a lot plugins posted on this site.
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Old 08-10-2012 , 21:34   Re: i cant understand...
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So then lets begin with one of yours?! Wc3FT say's you something i think, and there are more than one bugs in it... what's about that?!
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Old 08-10-2012 , 21:41   Re: i cant understand...
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So then lets begin with one of yours?!
Really? Because my only plugin posted here works just fine

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Wc3FT say's you something i think, and there are more than one bugs in it... what's about that?!
Can't answer for it, I haven't touched it in over a year and I'm not even sure what version is posted on this site.
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Old 08-10-2012 , 22:10   Re: i cant understand...
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I use the last version and found it -> HERE
And the thread in this board here links to the page too!

There are more than one Bug i think, but the first wich i direct know is the bug where the shadowhunter ultimate brokes and you die if you get a hit. Mean's nobody got necklence and there is also no warden!

Also nice iss the grenade block for orc with flaming gloves, but by the way the harder items are boots for an undeath or cloak for an human... making no sense for me!
Also there is a bug with the boots, they stay if someone buy them and then another item for it!
Then the socks wich dont works everytime, you must stay alive a round to get them...
Then the bloodmage wich is the race number one for everyone wich plays the game and checks out that this race is almost indestructible with a combination of items. no other heroclass is higher than this one...

This is what i mean, but mostly bugs like that known wide later after one or 2 weeks playing...
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Old 08-10-2012 , 22:48   Re: i cant understand...
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I am fully aware of the many bugs in War3ft but I don't think you started this thread to discuss them. If you want to discuss them, post on their site and we can take it up there (though I doubt I will contribute since I don't visit that site anymore)
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Old 08-11-2012 , 00:26   Re: i cant understand...
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One cuestion about plugins submissions , why wait 1 year for under approve / desapprove? t1 t2 t3

This isn't a offence , but , 1 year ... D:
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Old 08-11-2012 , 00:31   Re: i cant understand...
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Simple, Approvers are lazy and it takes a while to review plugins. Plus, it is time consuming
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Old 08-11-2012 , 02:56   Re: i cant understand...
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Start to pay Yami and the other approvers for that and it will go faster, until then they have to do that in their spare time. If i'd have that job of an approver, it wound't be my first priority to do that.
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Old 08-11-2012 , 07:16   Re: i cant understand...
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I think plugins at least from 2009-2012 should be bug free if they were approved. All plugins are made by people for FREE that doesn't give you the right to demand anything. If they would get money for their work, it would be totally different thing. You should be grateful that you can use amxx for free. Amxx as a project has come long way since the first war3ft plugin (for example).

You have to understand how old the plugin database is and how many plugins are out there, it would take ages to review every single on of them.
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