[Ginxeng]

Originally Posted by Mecha the Slag they could just make entities with the hat models be invisible ONLY, that way all mod stuff that doesn't involve fake hats wouldn't be broken

They shouldn't even be trying to break hat mods in the first place. This just shows you that valve are not as good as you think and simply rely on stupid stuff like hats to keep their games going because they know without us their games would be dead in 6 months or lesss. They are seriously getting annoying with trying to push hats into the game just to keep it "fresh". They need to stop milking the game with hats, people choosed not put up with their hat BS by using this mod and now they turn around and break it on purpose just to preserve their stuff to continue to piss off the community.

[Citrixlemon]

Originally Posted by Ginxeng They shouldn't even be trying to break hat mods in the first place. This just shows you that valve are not as good as you think and simply rely on stupid stuff like hats to keep their games going because they know without us their games would be dead in 6 months or lesss. They are seriously getting annoying with trying to push hats into the game just to keep it "fresh". They need to stop milking the game with hats, people choosed not put up with their hat BS by using this mod and now they turn around and break it on purpose just to preserve their stuff to continue to piss off the community.

I think this is bigger than simply wanting to protect the integrity of hats for the benefit of keeping the game "fresh." Valve has a financial interest in this as well. After seeing the recent "Sam and Max" promotion and the less recent L4D promotion, Valve is undoubtedly considering how plugins like Equipment Manager will affect their bottom line. People who can use Equipment Manager will not be suckered into schemes to get them to "buy" hats.

[Ginxeng]

Good points, as much as I dont want to accept it. I'm sure paid content is around the corner and valve simply doesn't want people wearing content they didn't pay for.

[noodleboy347]

I thought Valve was promoting community content, not discouraging it...

[emuzombie]

Before I say this, I want to make it clear, I am in full support of the modding community and disagree with Valve.

However, the reason why Valve has done this is not as apparent as you might believe. I give you my theory. Microtransactions to buy new weapons and hats.

I give you the evidence:

-New steam client supports microtransactions... Valve even mentions it to developers: http://www.steampowered.com/steamwor...ochure2010.pdf (see page 3)

Microtransactions Want to offer your customers a scabbard for their sword? New tires? The latest in night vision goggles? Now you can through microtransaction support in Steamworks. Your item server can now be easily integrated with Steamworks so that Steam users can buy and instantly use the items they want – all without leaving the game. Steam handles all of the billing through the user’s Steam account.

-This image is also found on that page:

-Valve removes server admins' ability to allow players to wear hats they do not own.
-Valve removes server admins' ability to give player weapons they do not own.
-2 games have had TF2 item promos (pre-order the game get a hat) This could be considered a test of this microtransaction system within TF2.
-It's no secret there is little money flow left in TF2. It's almost 3 years old now.
-Trading is still nonexistent.

[voogru]

Originally Posted by emuzombie Before I say this, I want to make it clear, I am in full support of the modding community and disagree with Valve. However, the reason why Valve has done this is not as apparent as you might believe. I give you my theory. Microtransactions to buy new weapons and hats. I give you the evidence: -New steam client supports microtransactions... Valve even mentions it to developers: http://www.steampowered.com/steamwor...ochure2010.pdf (see page 3) -This image is also found on that page: -Valve removes server admins' ability to allow players to wear hats they do not own. -Valve removes server admins' ability to give player weapons they do not own. -2 games have had TF2 item promos (pre-order the game get a hat) This could be considered a test of this microtransaction system within TF2. -It's no secret there is little money flow left in TF2. It's almost 3 years old now. -Trading is still nonexistent.

That's primarily targeted towards other game companies. Valve is implementing it for TF2 though.

I'd be fine if they just protected the micro-transaction items, but the current changes block _everything_, and not just micro-transactions items.

[Kireas]

Forwarded this onto my entire community. That'll add a hundred odd signs.

[Jindo]

I've signed this and I'm encouraging members of my community to sign it as well.

[flubber]

Crazy thing, i can't register on voogru forum due to my country but i can sign the petition. Amazing how we can adapt our views on something...

[voogru]

Originally Posted by flubber Crazy thing, i can't register on voogru forum due to my country but i can sign the petition. Amazing how we can adapt our views on something...

This is an anti-spam measure, if you wish to register pm me a username and an email address and ill make an account for you.