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Old 10-16-2012 , 00:03   windows server > linux server ???
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so my csgo surf server crashed 3 times in the past hour, i contacted support telling them that its kinda weird to be getting so many crashes when I ordered their "Ultraaccelerator [Linux setup with FPS Locker / up to 128 tick]", which causes the server to run on a specially optimized linux sever

heres their response:

"Hi,

Since you recently switched to the ultra option that could be the cause of the crashing, especially since you are running plugins. Going from hyper to ultra means going from Windows to linux. Most plugins do not work well in Linux especially if they are not tested or supposed to work while running on that OS"


first time I've heard someone say windows servers are better than linux, is this true?


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] meta list
  [01] SourceMod (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
  [02] CS:GO NoRoundStats (0.0.1) by Dr!fter
  [03] CS Tools (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
  [04] SDK Tools (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
  [05] SDK Hooks (2.2.0) by Tsunami, psychonic
Cusher VanBuren :  rpgrank
,      Saudi Arabia ?!  . :  nick - bool - elements ..... etc
] sm plugins
 "Basic Chat" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Increase Nade Damage" (1.0.2) by AUSTINBOTS! - SavSin
 "Basic Commands" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Client Preferences" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Admin Menu" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Connect Announce" (1.3) by Arg!
 "[THC RPG] Total HardCore RPG" (0.8.6_stable) by ArsiRC
 "Reserved Slots" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "RandomCycle" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
To see more, type "sm plugins 11"
Player: President Evil - Damage Taken
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Damage Taken from "Poop^o^" - 246 in 6 hits
] sm plugins 11
 "Admin File Reader" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Admin Help" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Basic Comm Control" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "NoBlock" (1.4.2) by Otstrel.ru Team
 "Infinite Jumping" (2.14.40) by Chanz
 "Nextmap" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Player Commands" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Advertisements" (0.5.5) by Tsunami
 "Fun Votes" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Jetpack" (1.1.0a) by Knagg0
 "Rock The Vote" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
To see more, type "sm plugins 22"
] sm plugins 2
 "Increase Nade Damage" (1.0.2) by AUSTINBOTS! - SavSin
 "Basic Commands" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Client Preferences" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Admin Menu" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Connect Announce" (1.3) by Arg!
 "[THC RPG] Total HardCore RPG" (0.8.6_stable) by ArsiRC
 "Reserved Slots" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "RandomCycle" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Admin File Reader" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Admin Help" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
To see more, type "sm plugins 13"
] 
] sm plugins 22
 "Map Nominations" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Show Damage" (1.0.7) by exvel
 "Sound Commands" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "MapChooser" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "SourceBans" (1.4.9) by SourceBans Development Team
 "Fun Commands" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Anti-Flood" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
 "Deathmatch" (1.3) by |NA| Snip3r
 "Basic Votes" (1.5.0-dev+3665) by AlliedModders LLC
] sm plugins 33
crash log:
Code:
EAM_1:1:43266376><Unassigned>" joined team "TERRORIST"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:26:17: "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" triggered "clantag" (value "EliteSlayers")
Game will not start until both teams have players.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:26:17: "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" triggered "clantag" (value "EliteSlayers")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:26:17: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:26:23: World triggered "Round_Start"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:26:24: "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><>" entered the game
L 10/15/2012 - 20:26:28: "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><Unassigned>" triggered "clantag" (value "")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:26:37: "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><Unassigned>" joined team "TERRORIST"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:26:38: "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><TERRORIST>" triggered "clantag" (value "")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:27:13: "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" killed "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" with "nova"
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (3000.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:28:00: "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><TERRORIST>" killed "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" with "ak47"
Attempting to precache model, but model name is NULL
L 10/15/2012 - 20:28:18: "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" killed "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" with "m4a1" (headshot)
L 10/15/2012 - 20:28:36: "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" killed "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" with "nova"
Attempting to precache model, but model name is NULL
L 10/15/2012 - 20:28:55: "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" killed "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" with "nova"
Attempting to precache model, but model name is NULL
L 10/15/2012 - 20:29:11: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><>" connected, address "64.169.4.54:27005"
Client "theshad087" connected (64.169.4.54:27005).
L 10/15/2012 - 20:29:26: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 10/15/2012 - 20:29:56: "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" killed "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" with "nova" (headshot)
Attempting to precache model, but model name is NULL
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:30:01: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><>" entered the game
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:30:03: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><Unassigned>" triggered "clantag" (value "")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:30:11: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><Unassigned>" joined team "CT"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:30:11: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><CT>" triggered "clantag" (value "")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:30:14: "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" killed "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><TERRORIST>" with "m4a1" (headshot)
L 10/15/2012 - 20:30:16: "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" killed "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" with "nova" (headshot)
Attempting to precache model, but model name is NULL
L 10/15/2012 - 20:30:36: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><CT>" committed suicide with "world"
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (3000.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:11: "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" killed "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><CT>" with "nova"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:21: "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><TERRORIST>" killed "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" with "awp" (headshot)
Attempting to precache model, but model name is NULL
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:32: "banpei<7><STEAM_1:1:1753863><>" connected, address "75.128.49.137:27005"
Client "banpei" connected (75.128.49.137:27005).
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:33: "banpei<7><STEAM_1:1:1753863><>" STEAM USERID validated
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (1500.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
theshad087: rpg
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:43: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><CT>" say "rpg"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:46: "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" killed "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><TERRORIST>" with "m4a1"
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:50: "banpei<7><STEAM_1:1:1753863><>" entered the game
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:51: "banpei<7><STEAM_1:1:1753863><Unassigned>" triggered "clantag" (value "")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:53: "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" killed "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" with "m4a1" (headshot)
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:55: "banpei<7><STEAM_1:1:1753863><Unassigned>" joined team "CT"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:31:55: "banpei<7><STEAM_1:1:1753863><CT>" triggered "clantag" (value "")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:09: "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" killed "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" with "m4a1" (headshot)
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:11: "Elementz<8><STEAM_1:0:32285087><>" connected, address "72.199.156.28:27005"
Client "Elementz" connected (72.199.156.28:27005).
Attempting to precache model, but model name is NULL
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
DataTable warning: (class player): Out-of-range value (-1695.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
DataTable warning: (class player): Out-of-range value (-1695.000000) in SendPropFloat 'm_vecBaseVelocity', clamping.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:14: "Elementz<8><STEAM_1:0:32285087><>" entered the game
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/1ab72a88.dat' doesn't exist.
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:15: "Elementz<8><STEAM_1:0:32285087><Unassigned>" triggered "clantag" (value "EliteSlayers")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:17: "Elementz<8><STEAM_1:0:32285087><Unassigned>" joined team "TERRORIST"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:17: "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><TERRORIST>" committed suicide with "world"
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:17: "Elementz<8><STEAM_1:0:32285087><TERRORIST>" triggered "clantag" (value "EliteSlayers")
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:17: "Elementz<8><STEAM_1:0:32285087><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:25: "Nick_<4><STEAM_1:0:18751911><CT>" killed "bool_<2><STEAM_1:1:43266376><TERRORIST>" with "m4a1" (headshot)
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:30: "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><CT>" killed "Emmisary<3><STEAM_1:1:44606278><TERRORIST>" with "deagle" (headshot)
Attempting to precache model, but model name is NULL
L 10/15/2012 - 20:32:31: "Elementz<8><STEAM_1:0:32285087><TERRORIST>" killed "theshad087<6><STEAM_1:1:56553332><CT>" with "nova" (headshot)
./exec_slayerssurf.run: line 318: 13429 Alarm clock             $HL_CMD

warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
1808 /home/buildbot/buildslave_hpath/csgo_pcbeta_linux/build/src/public/tier0/platform.h: No such file or directory.
email debug.log to [email protected]
Mon Oct 15 20:32:40 PDT 2012: Server Quit
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Old 10-16-2012 , 08:53   Re: windows server > linux server ???
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I've never had a real problem with Linux, and SM works fine on Linux. Your host probably set it up in a weird dumb way.

Usually, you won't get any real performance gain from "ultra" packages.
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Old 10-16-2012 , 09:14   Re: windows server > linux server ???
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Plugins should work across operating systems. Extensions do not; you will need to find and install the Linux version of any extensions you use that aren't bundled with SourceMod. The Linux versions of extensions will have filenames that end in .so

There's only one clear thing I can think of in which Linux is better: It includes the debugging symbols, which means any gamedata that uses signatures (NOT offsets) is less likely to break on Linux.

Oh, and hldsupdatetool doesn't require privilege escalation on Linux like it does on Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 for no discernable reason. You'd almost think this is one of my pet peeves.
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Old 10-16-2012 , 14:02   Re: windows server > linux server ???
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I still can't decide/tell which is better, but I know what bugs me bout win is that I can't properly copy .dlls so I have to ask host to do copy stuff for me, or offer game mods installs through cpanel, but once they do that it's actually easier and faster to install smod, sockets and hooks per every server (re)install
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Old 10-16-2012 , 14:11   Re: windows server > linux server ???
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I still can't decide/tell which is better, but I know what bugs me bout win is that I can't properly copy .dlls so I have to ask host to do copy stuff for me, or offer game mods installs through cpanel, but once they do that it's actually easier and faster to install smod, sockets and hooks per every server (re)install
If a game server provider blocks DLL files from being uploaded to their Windows machines, I'd think they'd prevent SO files from being uploaded to their Linux machines.
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Old 10-16-2012 , 22:50   Re: windows server > linux server ???
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It includes the debugging symbols
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Old 10-17-2012 , 15:38   Re: windows server > linux server ???
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If a game server provider blocks DLL files from being uploaded to their Windows machines, I'd think they'd prevent SO files from being uploaded to their Linux machines.
it's the 2nd or 3rd provider to block dlls, but so far i've seen none to block so files... i also can't copy on my hdd the crash/dmp files, I have to ask host to decode one for me
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