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ChocOrange
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Old 11-17-2011 , 22:35   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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Try again.

It is not supposed to be active DURING ANY WAR.
If you are playing wars on a server with MM:S and SM, good luck ;)
Non-official wars are fine. SM is very efficient in war mode. I'd rather protect my server and at least have a half-decent game when client-side anti-cheats aren't running.

I'll bet if you play a war on a server with SM running you wouldn't even know...
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Old 11-18-2011 , 06:51   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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Non-official wars are fine. SM is very efficient in war mode. I'd rather protect my server and at least have a half-decent game when client-side anti-cheats aren't running.

I'll bet if you play a war on a server with SM running you wouldn't even know...
yes you are right =) at least someone deal my view
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Old 11-18-2011 , 16:34   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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Can anyone tell what is the difference between (1) and (2) types of detections?
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Old 11-18-2011 , 17:37   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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taken from the .sp

// Player shot on the exact frame that allowed it. = METHOD_AUTOFIRE1


// Some hacks will alternate IN_ATTACK between frames. = METHOD_AUTOFIRE2
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Old 11-18-2011 , 18:28   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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// Player shot on the exact frame that allowed it. = METHOD_AUTOFIRE1


// Some hacks will alternate IN_ATTACK between frames. = METHOD_AUTOFIRE2
Means the frame like in "frames per second", or a frame (tick), like in tickrate?

I don't understand the second. Does that mean, that server sees a client as being IN_ATTACK even between frames where this should be impossible?

I am not very much techincally gifted when it comes to being THAT technical What could an example of a hack be for the both types of detections? Is it like making a macros that clicks for you 100 times a second?

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Old 11-20-2011 , 06:25   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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Means the frame like in "frames per second", or a frame (tick), like in tickrate?
One server tick.

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I don't understand the second. Does that mean, that server sees a client as being IN_ATTACK even between frames where this should be impossible?
Doing it this consistent without fault for ~20 seconds is not possible. Scripts or manual attempts to do the same wouldn't register the same way.

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What could an example of a hack be for the both types of detections? Is it like making a macros that clicks for you 100 times a second?
Hacks will either use one method or the other. I don't know of any macros that can do the same.
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Old 11-21-2011 , 15:49   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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Hi Tony.

Are you aware that you can trigger this manually? One of my regulars did it at the weekend and after speaking to him I tried it myself.

I takes a lot of M1 button mashing, but I managed to trigger it 6 times in a period of 15 minutes just by hitting M1 really fast.

The game is TF2, Pyro class, Degreaser weapon.

Now, quite why anyone would actually do this during normal play is the question, but nonetheless, if it can be triggered manually I could never set it to auto-ban.

Thanks as always for all your great work.

Cheers
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Old 11-21-2011 , 15:53   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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Hi Tony.

Are you aware that you can trigger this manually? One of my regulars did it at the weekend and after speaking to him I tried it myself.

I takes a lot of M1 button mashing, but I managed to trigger it 6 times in a period of 15 minutes just by hitting M1 really fast.

The game is TF2, Pyro class, Degreaser weapon.

Now, quite why anyone would actually do this during normal play is the question, but nonetheless, if it can be triggered manually I could never set it to auto-ban.

Thanks as always for all your great work.

Cheers
MrBen
and some trigger bots go past it also, could be nice to have that thing detected
many thanks for all ur hard work tony, you have done alot for us
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Old 11-21-2011 , 15:59   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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I takes a lot of M1 button mashing, but I managed to trigger it 6 times in a period of 15 minutes just by hitting M1 really fast.
Can you PM me the log of this?

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and some trigger bots go past it also, could be nice to have that thing detected
Do you have an example of a trigger-bot that is bypassing the check?
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Old 11-21-2011 , 16:43   Re: Confidence in Auto-Trigger?
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Doing it now mate.

You just want the SMAC log yes?
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