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Old 04-30-2010 , 17:06   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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Old 04-30-2010 , 18:03   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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lol I seek flame war.

VAC is soon to be updated, as far as what I've heard on Steam.
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Old 04-30-2010 , 18:47   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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lol I seek flame war.

VAC is soon to be updated, as far as what I've heard on Steam.
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
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Old 04-30-2010 , 19:08   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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Well, for now his plugin alone killed only steambans project
It didn't. SteamBans was aware of this problem before the release of joaquimandrade's plugin.
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- People who are determined enough to find the plugin (i.e. those who want to abuse it) will still find it (or an equivalent) through other sources
I have it.


http://www.game-monitor.com/search.p...&type=variable
Am I missing something here, or did you paste the wrong link? How does SBSRV enable replacing steamids?
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Old 04-30-2010 , 20:44   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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Let's review here:
Pros:
  • Amusement?

Cons:
  • Breaking of steambans
  • Making every league's steamid database useless
  • Making it even more trivial to falsify evidence against people. (Leagues use status commands, servers use it for demos)

Final ruling: You post the plugin, I'm going to ban you. We don't allow slowhacking, and most of your arguments could apply to that as well.
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Old 04-30-2010 , 20:55   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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[*] Breaking of steambans[*] Making every league's steamid database useless
But is server side!!!
Administrators decides to put it or not

What's the problem with that?

If they want to put some funny plugin and break his steambans usage... it's fine!

I don't see the point where someone using steamid replacer will break other servers.
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Old 04-30-2010 , 21:01   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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Final ruling: You post the plugin, I'm going to ban you. We don't allow slowhacking, and most of your arguments could apply to that as well.
I will qoute again for devicenull. Slowhacking is server side as well... In the end... it's an exploit. Is this tiny bit of amusement worth this much arguing? I feel that there is a bit more mal intention wanted... Anyways your current arguement still follows devicenull's final rulling -_-
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Old 04-30-2010 , 21:03   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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IIRC, "slowhacking" is when a client's settings or game is changed without their permission.
I don't see how this plugin fits into that definition.
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Old 04-30-2010 , 21:04   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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I don't see the point where someone using steamid replacer will break other servers.
SteamBans and League Bans are global systems, are they not? What is to stop someone with this plugin from reporting a hacker with a false SteamID?

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IIRC, "slowhacking" is when a client's settings or game is changed without their permission.
I don't see how this plugin fits into that definition.
Personally, I would consider a SteamID a client setting
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Old 04-30-2010 , 21:23   Re: Why trash Steamid Replacer?
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Should we say thank you for your pointless comment?
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But is server side!!!
Administrators decides to put it or not

What's the problem with that?

If they want to put some funny plugin and break his steambans usage... it's fine!

I don't see the point where someone using steamid replacer will break other servers.
If you ban someone using a false steamID, then another account which did not cheat might get banned, and not the cheater, since his steamID has been changed.
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