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Inflikted
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Old 05-10-2009 , 10:23   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1321

i run windows server, sourcemod 1.2.0
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           05 "Admin Menu" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           06 "Advertisements" (0.5.5) by Tsunami
           07 "AFK Manager" (3.0.12-compat) by Rothgar
           08 "Anti-Flood" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           09 "Basic Chat" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           10 "Basic Comm Control" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           11 "Basic Commands" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           12 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           13 "Basic Votes" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           14 "VBAC" (3.3) by MoggieX
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           21 "Fun Commands" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           22 "Fun Votes" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           23 "HLstatsX Plugin" (2.8) by TTS Oetzel & Goerz GmbH
           24 "KnifeSyphon" (1.7) by bl4nk
           25 "Anti-Micspam" (0.3) by Ryan "FLOOR_MASTER" Mannion
           26 "MySQL Server Configs & Logging" (1.1) by MoggieX
           27 "Nextmap" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           28 "Player Commands" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
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           30 "Reserved Slots" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
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           33 "Server Redirect Ads" (1.1) by Brainstorm
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           35 "Evil Admin - Glow" (1.0.107) by <eVa>Dog
           36 "Sound Commands" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
           37 "SourceBans" (1.4.2) by InterWave Studios Development Team
           38 "Spray Tracer" (5.8) by Nican132, CptMoore, Lebson506th
           39 "SQL Admin Manager" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
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Old 05-10-2009 , 13:17   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1322

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Only way is by entering a bind to execute said command or manually entering. Either way the person executing it would know what they are doing. I cannot help you any further with that.
Well, when I look into my config, I don't see any commands that are on the block list.
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Old 05-10-2009 , 23:29   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1323

I was recently banned from a DoDS server for KAC 5.15, which I understand is for cheating and trying to bypass sv_consistency. I have never cheated in any Steam game and am confused by this perm ban for "cheating". In all the others problems with this that I've found where others had similar issues as me, people discounted them as "they were definitely cheating". Well I had the same auto-ban problem and I have never cheated in any Steam game. I am sure all my configs are legal since I use them for league play as well as having used X-ray, CAL ACS, D-Blocker, and Aequitas, several of which scan configs and I've never had any issue.

So I have come here to say there is something wrong or buggy about this ban code or something that needs to be corrected. I'm not trying to badmouth this script since it seems like many think it does a great job, I am just here to present some criticism of something I think needs fixing.

And please don't give me "well you were cheating" because I wouldn't waste my time to register an acccount on here and type all this out just to BS some people who can do nothing to remedy my server ban. I have honestly did not cheat and I'm willing to send someone my configs if they want to look over them for things KAC may not like.

Thanks
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lhffan
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Old 05-14-2009 , 09:04   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1324

Then you should post an protest

http://www.kigenac.com/
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Dirton
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Old 05-15-2009 , 10:01   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1325

Hi, great plugin! But it would be much easier for me to explane for what people are being banned if it would show something like "Cheating. sv_cheats 1" instead of "Cheating.KAC ID:5.14"
Also I edited all KACBan function requesting fields with month length ban instead of permban, but "Cheating.KAC ID:5.xx" randomly come permbanned. I can't think of how could that happen. :/

P.S. Using it with SB.

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lhffan
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Old 05-15-2009 , 14:04   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1326

why not permban anyone that cheats. Do you encourage your users to play with transparent walls ;)
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Old 05-15-2009 , 15:17   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1327

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Originally Posted by lhffan View Post
why not permban anyone that cheats. Do you encourage your users to play with transparent walls ;)
Because when you do 100 bans you'll play with the admins only on your server
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Dirton
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Old 05-15-2009 , 15:28   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1328

zhelev81


Precisely, well, 100 won’t make much difference, but 40 permbans/day will. And that’s exact amount of bans this plugin is producing now on my servers (two), that is 4.3% of 923 alltime bans we made on this server over a year. Also why not, they will probably know after first automated ban, that if they show up again with cheats, they'll get another one.

Some global #define at the top to select ban time would make life easier.

And, yes, I'm thinking to make cheat server later, were the best cheat wins, but it'll be only for that server.

Last edited by Dirton; 05-15-2009 at 15:44.
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Old 05-16-2009 , 08:58   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1329

NS has had the policy of perma-banning cheaters and we still have a full Dust2 server. Cheaters are only people who wish to ruin the game for others in the server in my view. So they can take a forever vacation.
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Dirton
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Old 05-16-2009 , 09:39   Re: Kigen's Anti-Cheat 1.1.8
#1330

I'm a bit more tolerant on that question. Please, let me know why does the plugin continue randomly make permbans.
I'm getting tired editing those. :/
If you run steamed server, then you have 20x less cheaters then on non-steam. And I'm forced on running non-steam cause in our country steamed servers remain empty all year long.
Why not give them another chance; furthermore plugin will ban them all over again and again till they stop using cheats.

Added later:
Dumb of me, I forgot replacing edited plugin on the other server.

Now everything works fine, more detailed ban reasons would make it even better.


Look as it goes, it outperformes all my admins 5 times!

Last edited by Dirton; 05-16-2009 at 14:43.
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