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allenwr
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Old 04-24-2007 , 19:03   Re: Gun control problem!
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1st of all, you're ignorant. 2nd F*** You and anyone the thinks we need gun control laws.



Now I am going to be civil about this. You think that if we made it illegal to have guns that it would stop crime, but now think about this... they would go after all registered guns. But how many criminals own a registered gun? my guess less then 25%. So, how would this be helpful? Our countries citizens would be defenceless with out any sort of guns and criminals would know this and be more likely to go after some one. (Personal note: Mace is not going to stop a guy with a gun). Now think about this, the Nazi's in Germany put in gun control laws in 1938. Shortly there after 12 Million jews were exterminated.Link

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1911 Turkeyestablished gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1929 The Soviet Unionestablished gun control. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1935 China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1938 Germanyestablished gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, 6 to 7 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, the mentally ill, and 12 million Christians who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1956 Cambodiaestablished gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1964 Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
1970 Ugandaestablished gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Side note, the Japanese did not invade US soil because they knew that the people were armed. And it is our constitutional right to own a gun. Though I am not 18, i own a few guns, all unregistered, so that if these laws are enacted by congress, I do not lose my right as a citizen.

I could not find a link to the Japanese statement.




A person with a gun is a citizen.
A person with out a gun is a subject.




I hope you read my article and see my point. And do not follow the Gun Control will save lives.
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Old 04-24-2007 , 19:12   Re: Gun control problem!
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I forgot to mention, that Australia has banned all guns in the country and now all gun related crimes are up.
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Just one more reason to add to the list.
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Old 04-24-2007 , 19:13   Re: Gun control problem!
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Allenwr, I love you. Never thought anybody would see the way things I do on this subject. Glad somebody is on my side in this place.
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Old 04-24-2007 , 21:16   Re: Gun control problem!
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Our countries citizens would be defenceless with out any sort of guns and criminals would know this and be more likely to go after some one. (Personal note: Mace is not going to stop a guy with a gun). Now think about this, the Nazi's in Germany put in gun control laws in 1938. Shortly there after 12 Million jews were exterminated.
Can you explain how come there are now so many countrys in Europe with Gun Control and neither one of them has Dictators?

So a way to prevent violence is to implicity say you are violent too?

Until when would the aparent sea of tranquility exist. It's not having guns that lowers the crimes. It's prosperity. If economy goes wrong one day in US what do you think it will happen? You for example will fight to survive with those guns you have.

Tell me. People with good jobs commit crimes has often has those who dont?

In Europe there is gun control in most countrys but there's also more equalness. That's the reason that isn't more crimes in Europe. Or Canada that hasn't gun control.
Gun control can't come without equalness.

But if thing's go wrong in US or in Europe were there will be more gun criminality?

Tell me. Would you feel confortable next side to a drunken guy with a legal gun?

Guns don't impose respect. They impose fear. Do you wanna live in fear?

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Old 04-24-2007 , 21:50   Re: Gun control problem!
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Can you explain how come there are now so many countrys in Europe with Gun Control and neither one of them has Dictators?

So a way to prevent violence is to implicity say you are violent too?

Until when would the aparent sea of tranquility exist. It's not having guns that lowers the crimes. It's prosperity. If economy goes wrong one day in US what do you think it will happen? You for example will fight to survive with those guns you have.

Tell me. People with good jobs commit crimes has often has those who dont?

In Europe there is gun control in most countrys but there's also more equalness. That's the reason that isn't more crimes in Europe. Or Canada that hasn't gun control.
Gun control can't come without equalness.

But if thing's go wrong in US or in Europe were there will be more gun criminality?

Tell me. Would you feel confortable next side to a drunken guy with a legal gun?

Guns don't impose respect. They impose fear. Do you wanna live in fear?
We have gun control in America. It's just not enforced hard enough I guess you could say. Mainly because a lot of guns are purchased illegally without the serial number on them or unregistered. What's going to happen if they take away the right to bear arms? Nothing. It's just going to take away the right for a lot of innocent people to defend themselves and their rights.

Just because you take away the right to bear arms, doesn't mean that some mad man is going to come rushing in. But just know, that it only takes one person to screw an entire population over. Hitler, being a prime example, or Stalin. Most people don't know this, but during Stalin's reign, he killed 6-12 million people in a year. That's twice the people in 1/4 of the time Hitler took. And there's not one public record of it [during that time]. You should really look back into the world's history, what you may find is that today's world really isn't so different than yesterday's.

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Just think if in CS game nobody had guns what would happen? Well in real life it's precisely the same. iN Europe there is an estrict gun control and for that reason criminality is by far way lower than in US. If you aRE AN American fight for your right to have a future without guns. Don't let all this pain be in vain has always! Wild West is over! Gangs are not cool! Violence is not cool ever.
So nobody has guns. The world seems peaceful. Then, oops, here comes someone with a gun! What are you going to do? Write a nice letter to him saying that he shouldn't be doing that? I think not. Think ka_roadwars_v2 man.

I'm a free man, and I'd like to die that way.
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Old 04-24-2007 , 22:04   Re: Gun control problem!
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I'm sorry, but I really have to consider the whole "X million X were rounded up and exterminated BECAUSE THEY DIDNT HAVE PISTOLS" stuff bupkis.

There is NOTHING stopping any army from invading your house. Your stupid hand guns are shit compared to what they can do to you. Your choice in weaponry is already restricted by to the point where you can't do a damn thing against any government agency (like those listed as killing "X many X"'s).

The only guns I personally see any reason for civilians to own are hunting rifles. Pistols are pointless, automatic weaponry is pointless.
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Old 04-24-2007 , 22:08   Re: Gun control problem!
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You have very good points. But I guarantee you have a far better chance of survival if you can defend yourself. But that's why the people in charge of those genocides enforced gun control, to get the least amount of possible resistance. And actually, there is something stopping the army from going in and invading your house. Alone you are powerless, together you are a force to be reckoned with. The civilian population far outnumbers the army's.
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Old 04-24-2007 , 22:09   Re: Gun control problem!
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Sawce has a point... You may be able to fight back, but no army will be held back due to an armed militia... However I would like to point out it would make it more impressionable if you DID fight back. Also, I only know about the Armenian Genocide, so that is all I will talk about. The Armenians were misguided as to why they were being moved. People didn't just come into houses and slaughter them.


PS: I'm Armenian.

Ironic how this was brought up on April 24th.
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Old 04-24-2007 , 22:11   Re: Gun control problem!
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Why not? American's did it with the British...
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Old 04-24-2007 , 22:12   Re: Gun control problem!
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True... however they had support from other countries such as the French... Most 3rd world countries don't have that kind of support.
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