[joaquimandrade]

Yes, mussolini but anyway I can give my opinion here.

[stupok]

Originally Posted by fysiks If an owner here feels it is potentially harmful enough then they have the ability to protect the community of HL1 gamers which I am all for. I think we should just forget about it and move on. @Quim: You could start your own website and post whatever you want .

I strongly disagree.

1. The community is not protected. Again, perhaps the rate of steamid spoofing would increase faster if the plugin was available, but that's not really important. Steamids are not reliable like we thought, regardless of whether or not the plugin is available here.

2. I think that's exactly the opposite of what we should do. Since Joaquim was nice enough to tell us about the problem, let's use this information to improve the things that we know are broken and unreliable.

3. Joaquim made a valuable contribution to the community. Censorship is not the answer.

Also, I'm laughing right now because Joaquim called you mussolini.

[Seta00]

Originally Posted by stupok (3) tell Valve to fix it

Theoretically impossible. (To fix it, not to tell Valve)

[wrecked_]

Well, getting back on topic (kind of) to stupok's option #2, what do you guys propose? I was considering IP's at first, but that seems to change far too much depending on the user. Is it possible to get hardware ID's? ( I think this was actually asked in Orpheu's thread once, then shot down. But it's worth a shot. )


EDIT:

Originally Posted by Seta00 Theoretically impossible.

Lol'd.

[Seta00]

Originally Posted by wrecked_ Lol'd.

Originally Posted by Seta00 (To fix it, not to tell Valve)

damn English language

[YamiKaitou]

Originally Posted by wrecked_ Is it possible to get hardware ID's?

Of the client? If you have a client side program, yes. If not, no.

[fysiks]

I don't see how I deserve to be called Mussolini. I didn't delete anything. If the owner feels they want to delete it they have the right to do so. And just because I'm ok with protecting the community doesn't make me deserve it either.

[Seta00]

Originally Posted by YamiKaitou Of the client? If you have a client side program, yes. If not, no.

Even in the client side, the HID has to be passed to the server via network connection. The server can be hooked, so the HID can be changed too.

[YamiKaitou]

Originally Posted by Seta00 Even in the client side, the HID has to be passed to the server via network connection. The server can be hooked, so the HID can be changed too.

Show me where it HAS to be transmitted.

[Seta00]

Originally Posted by YamiKaitou Show me where it HAS to be transmitted.

Here:

Nah, I kid Yami. Seriously now:
What's the point of knowing the HID only at client side?!?!?! If you want to use it as an ID, a replacement for SteamID, then it HAS to be transmitted to the server.