[DruGzOG]

Originally Posted by redivcram Have you even opened the MAP file in an editor? I am seeing nothing in my editor, It's blank.

There should be a wad file that you can add. It should display all the entities and parts of the map

[gabuch2]

You don't even need to decompile the map, you just need BSPE or Ripent.

[LordDeath]

Originally Posted by DruGzOG Really don't think you know what you're talking about. Ran the map and it took me less than 2 minutes to create spawn points to make this map playable. There's no secret to accessing these maps and they're not hard to play on, with/without the original host or such. What fysiks said still stands. https://imgur.com/a/QNIlpkA Edit: Actually took a minute and 24 seconds Also a PM isn't required. You can use this plugin to remove the entities that are making the map "protected" https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=74680 OR there is a plugin around here that you can edit to do the same exact thing and "require" that plugin to be used, although any user can do the same. Examples: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=931461 https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=990497

Yes, you get the map to run or let's say "open" but what you have done is just nothing because you didn't even get the actual map content (because what you have done is literally deleting it's content and adding up spawns/light instead of getting the actual content) which is absurd. (unless you are willing to rebuild it yourself)
Compare this to the screenshot that you posted https://imgur.com/a/qGnfdL0
also wad files are texture files, it has nothing to do with showing entities of the maps or not.

[redivcram]

Originally Posted by LordDeath Yes, you get the map to run or let's say "open" but what you have done is just nothing because you didn't even get the actual map content (because what you have done is literally deleting it's content and adding up spawns/light instead of getting the actual content) which is absurd. (unless you are willing to rebuild it yourself) Compare this to the screenshot that you posted https://imgur.com/a/qGnfdL0 also wad files are texture files, it has nothing to do with showing entities of the maps or not.

His philosophy makes no sense and is missing a lot of details related to the answer I'm looking.

[LordDeath]

Originally Posted by redivcram Have you even opened the MAP file in an editor? I am seeing nothing in my editor, It's blank.

as I said before, decompiling a protected map gets you nowhere to the actual thing.
for example compare this log to the one he posted

BSPTwoMap v1.4b (Jan 4 2004) by Skyler 'Zipster' York With code written by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh and Valve Software Decompiling BSP file D:\bsp2map\zm_lgk_labtest_reborn... Processing model 0 (worldspawn)...done Processing model 1 (func_water)...done Processing model 2 (func_wall)...done Processing model 3 (func_illusionary)...done Processing model 4 (func_ladder)...done . ... ... .. ...... .... .. Processing model 65 (func_illusionary)...done Processing model 66 (func_ladder)...done Processing model 67 (func_wall)...done Processing model 68 (func_wall)...done Processing model 69 (trigger_teleport)...done Processing model 81 (func_illusionary)...done Processing model 82 (func_conveyor)...done Processing model 86 (func_illusionary)...done Processing model 87 (func_wall)...done Processing model 88 (func_wall)...done Processing model 89 (trigger_push)...done Processing model 90 (func_illusionary)...done Processing model 91 (func_illusionary)...done Processing model 92 (func_illusionary)...done Extracting included textures...done ----- END BSPTwoMap -----

[redivcram]

That's why I asked him that question. To check him.

[bad_boy]

Originally Posted by LordDeath I'm not really talking about something that I didn't do before, also what you said is not right at all. Yes, the map needs to be read by both the server and the client, but there is still a way to prevent people from using a map that you own by doing something to the map, which I keep for myself. once that thing is done, the map can't be decompiled, opened by viewers or played by anyone else other than the map owner. an example of a protected map, you won't be able to play it or even decompile it: https://www.mediafire.com/file/cqb3i...eborn.rar/file

I do not know anything about making maps or editing them but I think Drugzog proved you wrong.
You said a map can be protected and we (yes we because I agree with them) say it can't.

[LordDeath]

Originally Posted by bad_boy I do not know anything about making maps or editing them but I think Drugzog proved you wrong. You said a map can be protected and we (yes we because I agree with them) say it can't.

nothing was proved wrong here.
once again, what he played is a map ripped of everything, just the brushes that seal the map are there (textured).
which means you still don't get to play the actual map even if u get to decompile it.
I believe you can compare between both yourself.
https://imgur.com/a/qGnfdL0 (actual map)
https://imgur.com/a/QNIlpkA (drugzog thingy)

[bad_boy]

Originally Posted by LordDeath nothing was proved wrong here. once again, what he played is a map ripped of everything, just the brushes that seal the map are there (textured). which means you still don't get to play the actual map even if u get to decompile it. I believe you can compare between both yourself. https://imgur.com/a/qGnfdL0 (actual map) https://imgur.com/a/QNIlpkA (drugzog thingy)

I agree there is a difference between the images.

[redivcram]

Originally Posted by bad_boy I do not know anything about making maps or editing them but I think Drugzog proved you wrong. You said a map can be protected and we (yes we because I agree with them) say it can't.

So, you're gonna believe everything you read on the internet just because multiple people agree? Have you ever considered just searching for a tiny sample of evidence to approve?

I am good with maps, yet I do not know and did not receive any good answer in this thread, yet. People say that you can make the map work, yet they did not provide evidence NOR information, which is the main part.