[lyric]

if its something like gamedata that should be easy to update right? I mean isn't it just a text file with OS specific attributes or something like that?

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by lyric if its something like gamedata that should be easy to update right? I mean isn't it just a text file with OS specific attributes or something like that?

It's a text file, but the hard part is getting the correct contents.

For instance, here is the first signature for the non-SteamPipe server:

            "CAttributeList::GetAttributeByID" //int, returns CEconAttribute address
            {
                "library"            "server"
                "windows"            "\x55\x8B\xEC\x51\x53\x8B\xD9\x8B\x43\x10"
                "linux"                "@_ZN14CAttributeList16GetAttributeByIDEi"
                "mac"                "@_ZN14CAttributeList16GetAttributeByIDEi"
            }

Basically, to get both the names for the Linux/Mac versions and bytes for the Windows versions requires disassembling server_srv.so and server_srv.dll. The Linux/Mac version may not change, but the Windows versions have a nasty tendency to break.

Edit: Also, you have to have both the Linux and Windows version, but SteamCMD doesn't give you both, meaning you need to have both Windows and Linux (or Mac) servers to get both files... you can't look things up directly in the Windows version. Instead, you use information gathered from the Linux version to locate the same function in the Linux version.

Edit 2: For reference, the SteamCMD version still uses @_ZN14CAttributeList16GetAttributeByIDEi for this function, but this is just one of 6 functions that needs to be checked on both Linux and Windows.

Edit 3: The Linux versions appear to be the same under SteamPipe, but that doesn't mean Valve can't throw in an additional update and screw things up.

[lyric]

wow i had no idea it was that complex. its amazing how anynoe is able to figure that all out lol

[FlaminSarge]

Windows seems to be fine. No worries, then.

[lyric]

is linux fine too? i'd like to maybe try this out

[lyric]

trying this now and get

09 <Error> "Nextmap" (1.5.0-dev+3834) by AlliedModders LLC 10 "Fun Commands" (1.5.0-dev+3834) by AlliedModders LLC 11 "Admin Help" (1.5.0-dev+3834) by AlliedModders LLC 12 "Basic Ban Commands" (1.5.0-dev+3834) by AlliedModders LLC 13 <Failed> "[TF2] Huntsman Hell" (1.3) by Powerlord

using latest snapshots of both metamod and sourcemod

just did an info on 13 and get

SM] Plugin #13.smx is not loaded.
] rcon sm plugins info 13
  Filename: huntsman-hell.smx
  Load error: Required extension "SteamTools" file("steamtools.ext") not running
  File info: (title "[TF2] Huntsman Hell") (version "1.3")
  File URL: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=214679

I thought StemTools was optional? wouldn't this mean it's required?

[FlaminSarge]

Needs MarkNativeAsOptional for the SteamTools stuff in AskPluginLoad2.

If you feel like putting in the effort, you could try using #tryinclude instead of #include (and #if defined's everywhere) so that it also makes steamtools compile-optional as well.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by lyric trying this now and get using latest snapshots of both metamod and sourcemod just did an info on 13 and get SM] Plugin #13.smx is not loaded. ] rcon sm plugins info 13 Filename: huntsman-hell.smx Load error: Required extension "SteamTools" file("steamtools.ext") not running File info: (title "[TF2] Huntsman Hell") (version "1.3") File URL: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=214679 I thought StemTools was optional? wouldn't this mean it's required?

That's because I'm dumb and forgot that SteamTools is an extension and not a plugin. Also what @FlaminSarge said about AskPluginLoad2. This version should fix that.

[lyric]

thanks powerlord. i had a question though.. there are 3 of us on the server now playing it but it seems to only allow 1v1 when in the video it had lots of people playing. is there a way i can do this sir? thanks

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by lyric thanks powerlord. i had a question though.. there are 3 of us on the server now playing it but it seems to only allow 1v1 when in the video it had lots of people playing. is there a way i can do this sir? thanks

Assuming this is on an arena map, set tf_arena_use_queue 0