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Jhob94
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Old 06-21-2024 , 09:19   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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And rightly. Why do we need AlliedModders to share your plugins, update them, spending already missing time on updates and fixing the plugin, when you can not release it at all. Your logic is sound, man
Why do you care if a person buys a plugin? They buy because they donít have knowledge, they donít want to search and they simply have money to go for it.
I have plenty of released plugins, if someone sold one by a simple edit or even the exact plugin i could not care less. Itís the consumer problem that he didnít search for it or seek for help. I would only be mad if he changed authorís name on the source code. Else i wouldnít bother. Knowledge is king, either by editing or searching for it. Welcome to the real world.
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Old 06-21-2024 , 09:24   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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Maybe it's time to stop writing false denunciations of Harry Potter?
Especially since AlliedModders is not the prosecutor's office and won't put anyone behind bars)
Brilliant. Create an account just to insert your opinion, approving the theft of other people's code and that AlliedModders has a license rule when publishing plugins. Just a high level dude, I'll see how your plugin is stolen and sold behind your back for big money money
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Old 06-21-2024 , 09:26   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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Why do you care if a person buys a plugin? They buy because they donít have knowledge, they donít want to search and they simply have money to go for it.
I have plenty of released plugins, if someone sold one by a simple edit or even the exact plugin i could not care less. Itís the consumer problem that he didnít search for it or seek for help. I would only be mad if he changed authorís name on the source code. Else i wouldnít bother. Knowledge is king, either by editing or searching for it. Welcome to the real world.
Thatís how it is in the l4d_spectate_flashlight_only plugin. It just took someone elseís code from the Flashlight plugin and thatís it.
Look at the l4d_zoom_level plugin, itís the same. Adding the sm_zoom command when itís already in the plugin itself doesnít seem like theft to you?
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Old 06-21-2024 , 09:33   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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If he changed the author’s name of a plugin that doesn’t belong to him then message the AM staff. Psychonic or darkdevil are probably the best ones to help you on that.
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Old 06-21-2024 , 09:46   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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If he changed the author’s name of a plugin that doesn’t belong to him then message the AM staff. Psychonic or darkdevil are probably the best ones to help you on that.
Follow this link ,https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri.../l4d2_map_nuke look at the plugin changes, and then go here
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=338742
Nothing new at all, he just stole a plugin from someone else

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Old 06-21-2024 , 09:58   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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Do you have evidence that it is the same source code? If yes, did he changed author’s name on source code? I’ll give you an example, i made a remake of nightcrawler for amxx which is public. Exolent was the first making one, it was private. Another guy made one for public and then i wrote my own version from scratch. There are a lot of similarities because nightcrawler was not my idea and it was a remake. Unless you have evidence of property stealing this could just be false accusations based on assumptions. Either way it isn’t me or anyone else here that you need to report this. With evidence, contact staff and they will take action.
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Old 06-21-2024 , 10:08   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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Do you have evidence that it is the same source code? If yes, did he changed authorís name on source code? Iíll give you an example, i made a remake of nightcrawler for amxx which is public. Exolent was the first making one, it was private. Another guy made one for public and then i wrote my own version from scratch. There are a lot of similarities because nightcrawler was not my idea and it was a remake. Unless you have evidence of property stealing this could just be false accusations based on assumptions. Either way it isnít me or anyone else here that you need to report this. With evidence, contact staff and they will take action.
And the fact that he leaves a link to the author, where he got this code from, is apparently not easy to guess
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Old 06-21-2024 , 18:37   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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https://www.sourcemod.net/license.php

It’s not against the license, but it is against the forum rules and unwelcome here.

You probably shouldn’t buy from people selling other’s work. If you really want to, think of it as buying support.
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Old 06-26-2024 , 04:33   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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https://www.sourcemod.net/license.php

Itís not against the license, but it is against the forum rules and unwelcome here.

You probably shouldnít buy from people selling otherís work. If you really want to, think of it as buying support.
Ok..But what 'bout this?
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Old 07-02-2024 , 20:17   Re: Understanding the SourceMod Plugin License
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Dear JustMadMan, Thank you for your attention and questions. To clarify, I would like to provide the following information.

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The point is that there is a Harry Potter user who updates and sells other people's plugins
[L4D2] Noxious Smoker Mortiegrama
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...2_smoker_toxic
[L4D2] Destructive Hunter by Moritegama
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...er_destructive
[L4D2] Sinister Jockey by Mortiegrama
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...inister_Jockey
[L4D2] Spitter SuperGirl by Mortiegrama
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...tter_Supergirl
[L4D2] Unstoappble Charger by Mortiegrama
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...er_unstoppable
[L4D] Psychotic Witch by Mortiegrama
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...er_unstoppable
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[L4D1/2] Flashlight by Silvers
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...light_speconly
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[L4D2] Bot Healing Values by Silvers
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...4d_bot_healing
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[L4D2] Tank Healing Field by Enercio
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri..._healing_field
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[L4D2] Fortnite Emotes & Dances by Francisco
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...ces_emotes_l4d
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The same plugin Scripted HUD by Marttt
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...2_scripted_hud
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As for me, this rule is absurd. Because this is nothing more than making money on someone else’s work. For example, in the l4d_zoom_level plugin, he supposedly updated it and made it new, but in fact the author already did it
https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri...4d2_zoom_level
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Follow this link ,https://github.com/fbef0102/Game-Pri.../l4d2_map_nuke look at the plugin changes, and then go here
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=338742
Nothing new at all, he just stole a plugin from someone else
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Ok..But what 'bout this?
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About Me
I start writing and learning sourcepawn code from 2017.
At that time I was newbie to this.
Started a l4d1 versus project called "Roto-AZ Mod", I am grateful that everyone who helped me a lot to improve my code before, Ex: finishlast, Marttt, Lux, Dragokas, Forgetest, Psyk0tik,
accelerator74, Spirit_12, Silvers......
Everyone is free to modify my Roto project today, all open source.

In 2020, I start to remake lots of old plugins in AlliedModder to pratice more my skills. that was even before you(JustMadMan) registered and joined alliedmodder, kid.

Remake plugin List
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There are still many old plugins I remake, again, everyone is free to modify, all open source.
L4D1/2-Public Plugins
L4D2-Public Plugins

During these years, I am tired of the people like you(JustMadMan), always ask for new request/feature and then disappear, no feedback, no response, not even the single world "Thank you". accuse me of stealing other people's work without any evidence.
So I turn into private work, if anyone needs request or feature or fix errors, they would pay me for modification, I only receive $ for my modification, not a whole plugin.
And of course I always send source code to the buyer according to the GPL licence
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About You(JustMadMan)
Instead of wasting time searching each of my youtube videos and my private plugins,
I sugguest you can start to learn source code, help other pepole.
It's okay, you can take all my public plugins here, L4D1/2-Public Plugins, L4D2-Public Plugins.

Whatever you want to fork my github repository and sell, I don't care.
Seriously I am tired of supporting public plugins everyday, maybe one day you can take my job and continue to maintain my plugins once I retired. If people have any crash, errors, warnings, fix, request, counting on you to help them, how about that? I will pay you double.
I can teach you how to write code and impove them. Let's earn the "big money money". I am waiting for your reply here.
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https://www.sourcemod.net/license.php

It’s not against the license, but it is against the forum rules and unwelcome here.

You probably shouldn’t buy from people selling other’s work. If you really want to, think of it as buying support.
Thank you, administrator.
I am willing to share my code of modified version to any of the original authors if they want to see what I change.

If I violate any of GPL license or forum rules, I accept any publishment.
If ban me, please delete all my public plugins shared on Alliedmodders website.
Because according to his "steal" definition, they are all just the copy of the other people's work.
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