[rhelgeby]

This thread was just meant as a hypothetical discussion to explore how other languages could be implemented (but not necessarily embedded). Don't consider this a feature request, but other developers could implement this with an extension (like Viper). No doubt it would be a big task to implement.

Plugins can and have already done a lot with SourcePawn, I just missed a object oriented language and more than two data types.

[BAILOPAN]

A fair statement!

I would definitely like to understand what things are difficult and how we can solve them. Although I haven't gone into too much detail in public, there is a vague, work-in-progress project to modernize Pawn. Many of its design decisions are arbitrary, but motivated at tackling the high-level problems in Pawn, and I would like to evolve the specification based on these kinds of discussions.

It is probably possible to categorize your complaints into these categories?

* No heap, meaning you can't allocate and compose actual data structures. Pawn sort of has objects with enum-structs, but they're limited by the lack of a heap. (Pawn++ probably will not have inheritance, see here - open for discussion).
* Lack of modules.
* Lack of usable function pointers.

It's kind of hard to separate semantics from syntax - so if there's specific syntactic complaints, or something's too verbose, I'd love to hear those too.

[FaTony]

Originally Posted by asherkin Things such as INativeInvoker exist for exactly this purpose, so that extensions can implement a whole new language.

And what if I want to implement C++ as a whole new language? How hard would that be? Is there any documentation except comments in source code?

[avasthisamar]

Support non public functions to return strings
Handle global variables in call-by-reference parameters and variadic argument lists
Replace all float operators with inline syntax
Fix displaying of string arrays
Replace \x03 etc. chat color codes with readable string in strings
Fix displaying global string's size in cells instead of bytes
Try to fetch some type info out of format specifier strings in methods with variadic arguments
Fix displaying constant array indices as bytes instead of cells
Fix bad coalescing of stores with an operation
Fix error with switches without a default case
Display variables correctly which are only used once.

[headline]

I skipped some of the questions due to them not making any sense. Also, pull requests welcome.

Originally Posted by avasthisamar Support non public functions to return strings

PHP Code:

public void OnPluginStart()
{
    PrintToServer("awd %s", test())
}

char[] test() {
    char a[32] = " 1 ";
    return a;
} 


Originally Posted by avasthisamar Replace \x03 etc. chat color codes with readable string in strings

They're character escapes, that's not sourcepawn's job

Originally Posted by avasthisamar Fix displaying global string's size in cells instead of bytes

sizeof refers to the amount of elements in an array, not tied to cells or bytes specifically

Originally Posted by avasthisamar Try to fetch some type info out of format specifier strings in methods with variadic arguments

This doesn't even happen in modern-day c++, this is a run-time error.

Originally Posted by avasthisamar Fix displaying constant array indices as bytes instead of cells

`const` variables outside of function parameters are not supported in the transitional syntax.

Originally Posted by avasthisamar Fix error with switches without a default case

I don't think this even happens