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Originally Posted by ghostofmybrain
Why would you expect the leaders of an open source, ad-free community, to come out in support of running add to pay for you to "rent out" valve's skins?
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Why would you fabricate your response like that? When did I say it's okay to "rent out" valve skins? What does running ads have to do with selling people to pay for pseudo skins? Since when does ad-free make things open source? Since when does open source mean no financial support whatsoever? There are plenty of open source platforms that run ads or other profit models like backings from filthy rich foundations or simple pay to use subscriptions. What makes them open source is that people can copy the code, see the code, and even use the code for running similar projects. Did you know Mozilla Firefox depends on ads to keep their operations running? They promote google search engines and even blog posts now. Open source still applys here, plenty of owners run similar projects without running ads, if they can afford to. Not much of a problem with ads, it's still open source.
Also your comment about someone saying "valvo sucks" is not representative towards all server owners. This is an individual's immaturity not a representation of every owner that run ads.
You seem to ignore all my points and not address them, while making absurd arguments. Maybe you should keep "boycott ESEA" and ads (like it says in your signature) since you are free to not play in platforms that bother you for whatever reason, instead of fabricating poor arguments while not addressing the points I've made.
@Dr!fter, we're not running adware behind player's backs. They are fully made aware that by playing on the servers that run ads, they are helping the community financially. Players don't mind it as you generalize and some players that do, simply have all the choice to not play in the server. It's not intrusive as you say it is. And we do care, it's just not everyone can run gaming server without financial support, and to say if we are not rich enough to do what we love, is sort of like what has been said here before about how artists shouldn't have any financial backing because some people feel that only the rich can do things.
This is an actual issue for obvious reasons stated in my previous post. Why do you think people are discussing this and emails are being sent out in the first place. This is obviously not the best place for people to make an argument as there seem to be a lot of members against ads here, and opens opportunities for scrutiny, but it is an important part of the source engine games community and could use all the help possible as plenty of members here want to keep motd.
You guys can have all the opinions you want, I'm just countering it with logic, rather than ignoring them.