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FreezerPT
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Old 04-27-2020 , 11:39   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Here's a list of the changes so far:


Again, I will publish the latest version on this forum once I get some feedback from some friends.
Just so I know it's stable and working fine.

Running on my server and until now so far so good
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Old 04-27-2020 , 22:34   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Hello

I installed it on Day of Defeat Source and within an hour I was called to to watch a suspected hacker. It was obvious he was using something. As I was watching him this message popped up:

L 04/27/2020 - 21:116: [sbpp_main.smx] "Console<0><Console><Console>" banned "pr0d!gy<1112><[U:1:28123092]><>" (minutes "0") (reason "[Little Anti-Cheat 1.0.0] Aimbot Detected")

Here is the lilac.log

2020/04/27 21:037 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pr0d!gy" | SteamID: STEAM_0:0:14061546 | IP: 24.208.93.152} is suspected of using an aimbot (Detection: 2 | Delta: 37 | TotalDelta: 42 | Detected: Aim-Snap Aim-Snap2).
Pos={-173,274,-131}, Angles={6.24557,-68.63998,0.00000}, Map="dod_avalanche", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_k98_scoped", Latency={Inc:0.013113,Out:0.065780}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.562703,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={512.970703 seconds}, GameTime={8142.674804 seconds}
2020/04/27 21:04:03 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pr0d!gy" | SteamID: STEAM_0:0:14061546 | IP: 24.208.93.152} is suspected of using an aimbot (Detection: 3 | Delta: 3 | TotalDelta: 10 | Detected: Autoshoot Angle-Repeat).
Pos={-207,-525,-254}, Angles={6.25563,-4.08095,0.00000}, Map="dod_avalanche", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_m1carbine", Latency={Inc:0.011144,Out:0.067114}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.559911,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={538.875976 seconds}, GameTime={8168.579589 seconds}
2020/04/27 21:05:52 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pr0d!gy" | SteamID: STEAM_0:0:14061546 | IP: 24.208.93.152} is suspected of using an aimbot (Detection: 4 | Delta: 22 | TotalDelta: 141 | Detected: Aim-Snap Aim-Snap2).
Pos={65,715,-119}, Angles={-2.96998,-88.67807,0.00000}, Map="dod_avalanche", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_mp44", Latency={Inc:0.011883,Out:0.065568}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.561902,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={647.969665 seconds}, GameTime={8277.674804 seconds}
2020/04/27 21:06:54 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pr0d!gy" | SteamID: STEAM_0:0:14061546 | IP: 24.208.93.152} is suspected of using an aimlock (Detection: 2).
Pos={-93,498,-127}, Angles={-5.83271,-85.15402,0.00000}, Map="dod_avalanche", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_m1carbine", Latency={Inc:0.006305,Out:0.062823}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.330601,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={709.980712 seconds}, GameTime={8339.684570 seconds}
2020/04/27 21:08:17 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pr0d!gy" | SteamID: STEAM_0:0:14061546 | IP: 24.208.93.152} is suspected of using an aimbot (Detection: 4 | Delta: 33 | TotalDelta: 85 | Detected: Aim-Snap).
Pos={116,-434,-255}, Angles={5.66956,-35.43490,0.00000}, Map="dod_avalanche", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_garand", Latency={Inc:0.005637,Out:0.062360}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.326361,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={793.080505 seconds}, GameTime={8422.785156 seconds}
2020/04/27 21:116 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pr0d!gy" | SteamID: STEAM_0:0:14061546 | IP: 24.208.93.152} is suspected of using an aimbot (Detection: 5 | Delta: 41 | TotalDelta: 277 | Detected: Aim-Snap).
Pos={195,-366,160}, Angles={28.38483,2.55764,0.00000}, Map="dod_avalanche", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_mp44", Latency={Inc:0.006199,Out:0.061798}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.313181,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={992.069824 seconds}, GameTime={8621.774414 seconds}
2020/04/27 21:116 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pr0d!gy" | SteamID: STEAM_0:0:14061546 | IP: 24.208.93.152} was banned for Aimbot.
Pos={195,-366,160}, Angles={28.38483,2.55764,0.00000}, Map="dod_avalanche", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_mp44", Latency={Inc:0.006199,Out:0.061798}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.313181,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={992.069824 seconds}, GameTime={8621.774414 seconds}

The ban showed up on our sourcebans website so everything seems to be working for Day of Defeat.

I'm also running the following SMAC anticheat software.

45 "SourceMod Anti-Cheat" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
46 "SMAC Client Protection" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
47 "SMAC ConVar Checker" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
48 "SMAC Rcon Locker" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
49 "SMAC Command Monitor" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
50 "SMAC Eye Angle Test" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
51 "SMAC Anti-Speedhack" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
52 "SMAC Spinhack Detector" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team

No conflicts thus far. I wish he would have been banned faster as he did a lot of damage before getting banned. Is there anyway to detect quicker?

Last edited by Merrill; 04-27-2020 at 22:47.
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Old 04-27-2020 , 23:41   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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We found innocent ban in bhop. Not use script but plugin catch him even it was not bhop.He just jump foward several time and got banned. So I tested your plugin, and found innocent bhop ban.
I dont use any program, script just jump in perfect timing.
I dont know how to detect bhop in your plugin, but you have to fix it.
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J_Tanzanite
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Old 04-27-2020 , 23:56   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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We found innocent ban in bhop. Not use script but plugin catch him even it was not bhop.He just jump foward several time and got banned. So I tested your plugin, and found innocent bhop ban.
I dont use any program, script just jump in perfect timing.
I dont know how to detect bhop in your plugin, but you have to fix it.
If you think you've found a bug, you're going to have to give instructions on how to reproduce it.
Simply saying someone is "jumping forward several times" doesn't really help.

In order to get banned for bhop, you have to jump at the exact tick you land on the ground several times in a row.
If you stand on the ground for a single tick without jumping, the bhop detection counter resets.

Also, I'm a little confused as to what you you're saying here.
Because you say "Not use script but plugin catch him" and "I don't use any program, script just jump in perfect timing."
Well which one is it? Did you use a script or not?

Also, if you have a script that will perfectly time bhops, that means the script is perfectly mimicking bhop... Ofc it's going to trigger a detection. There's no distinction between the two actions.
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Old 04-28-2020 , 00:27   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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https://play-tv.kakao.com/v/408544171
Watch the Heavy.
I am not server owner. I was playing in sever with your anti cheat plugin, and one player got banned by bhop.
He didnt use any script. He just jumping foward sometime. So I tried your plugin, and found innocent bhop ban. I didn't use cheat or script. Just try to jump several times like above the video.
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Old 04-28-2020 , 01:19   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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https://play-tv.kakao.com/v/408544171
Watch the Heavy.
I am not server owner. I was playing in sever with your anti cheat plugin, and one player got banned by bhop.
He didnt use any script. He just jumping foward sometime. So I tried your plugin, and found innocent bhop ban. I didn't use cheat or script. Just try to jump several times like above the video.
Ok, so you're not the server owner, so you don't know the exact details behind the ban.
And now you're saying he didn't use any scripts, ok.
So how exactly do you know for sure this ban is invalid?

And he was just "jumping forward for sometime"...Yeah?...
What exactly do you think bhop does? What do you think it looks like? It looks just like that.

You still haven't given any reproducible steps on how to trigger a false ban.
"Just try to jump several times like above the video"
I did as you asked (even tho I haven't had anyone else report this problem... Nor have I had this problem myself back in the day).
And I can't reproduce any false positives... At all...
I tried, but... Nothing, didn't get banned.

Nothing you are saying is making any sense here.
I'm starting to think there is a massive language barrier going on.

Look, if you can't give any reproducible steps on how to trigger a false positive, then there's nothing I can do for you.
You're going to have to talk to the server owners if you think the ban is invalid.
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Old 04-28-2020 , 01:27   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by Merrill View Post
Hello

I installed it on Day of Defeat Source and within an hour I was called to to watch a suspected hacker. It was obvious he was using something. As I was watching him this message popped up:

L 04/27/2020 - 21:116: [sbpp_main.smx] "Console<0><Console><Console>" banned "pr0d!gy<1112><[U:1:28123092]><>" (minutes "0") (reason "[Little Anti-Cheat 1.0.0] Aimbot Detected")

The ban showed up on our sourcebans website so everything seems to be working for Day of Defeat.

I'm also running the following SMAC anticheat software.

45 "SourceMod Anti-Cheat" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
46 "SMAC Client Protection" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
47 "SMAC ConVar Checker" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
48 "SMAC Rcon Locker" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
49 "SMAC Command Monitor" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
50 "SMAC Eye Angle Test" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
51 "SMAC Anti-Speedhack" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team
52 "SMAC Spinhack Detector" (0.8.7.3) by SMAC Development Team

No conflicts thus far. I wish he would have been banned faster as he did a lot of damage before getting banned. Is there anyway to detect quicker?
I'm not sure, I don't think so. Sadly.

Currently, the only thing that might have helped would have been to set "lilac_aimlock_light" to "0".
However, doing so could cause server lag, as it would make Lilac test everyone for Aimlock constantly. Weaker servers may not be able to handle it.

Again, that might have helped, it depends if he was snapping and locking onto players constantly.

But also, it's a little undefined if disabling lightweight mode could cause false positives.
Version 1.2.0 (coming soon) should have a fix against such false positives, but again, it's untested territory.
Version 1.2.0 also redefines aimlock a bit, so detections may be less aggressive than it currently is.
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Old 04-28-2020 , 02:10   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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If you press the jump 5 times at the exact moment without just pressing it, then got banned.
Is this plugin block bhop cheat or block hbop itself?

Last edited by koscar12; 04-28-2020 at 02:21.
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Old 04-28-2020 , 05:01   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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I think that depends on how you configure sourcebans.
what do you mean? my sourcebans is working fine, i wanted to know if this plugin (anti-cheat) will show its bans on sourcebans webpage like smac does, that's what i wanted to know lol : )

edit: the plugin doesnt create any cfg file in sourcemod folder
i wanted to disable bhop check because on 1 of my servers i use autoenablebhop and on another i have [SHOP] BHOP + [VIP] BHOP
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Old 04-28-2020 , 06:44   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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what do you mean? my sourcebans is working fine, i wanted to know if this plugin (anti-cheat) will show its bans on sourcebans webpage like smac does, that's what i wanted to know lol : )

edit: the plugin doesnt create any cfg file in sourcemod folder
i wanted to disable bhop check because on 1 of my servers i use autoenablebhop and on another i have [SHOP] BHOP + [VIP] BHOP
Ahh, I see what you mean.
Yeah it will show bans like SMAC does.

The config file is generated in your game's cfg folder.
Like:
Code:
csgo/cfg/lilac_config.cfg
tf/cfg/lilac_config.cfg
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