[deedeedee]

Originally Posted by MasterMe Can you verify you have the following? Perhaps try reinstalling or updating these. sourcemod 1.10 (or higher). Left 4 DHooks Direct https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=321696 Dhooks (experimental dynamic detour version) https://forums.alliedmods.net/showth...86#post2588686 After this, running "sm_l4dhooks_detours" in the server console has to produce output, and it should include something for the grenade throwing plugin.

I ended up replacing my sourcemod folders, even though I had the exact version that was released and they seem to be working again. The only issue is how my bots tend to not do much with hordes still with car alarms. They do throw molotovs at hordes/events, but rarely a pipebomb.

[deedeedee]

Another question is that is it possible to get bots to throw pipebombs at Tanks? I've made a command so pipebombs explode really early, so I was hoping there's a way to do it.

[MasterMe]

Originally Posted by Crasher_3637 You are correct. Making them throw two seconds earlier helped to compensate for the bots' "dumbness" because they would often just stand there with a grenade in their hand while they get swarmed. By the time they would finally throw one, another bot would throw one as well. Plus, most of their health would already be gone on higher difficulties.

This makes a lot of sense, and indeed better to throw early 9 times than to throw late and die 1 time, at least for higher difficulties. 3 seconds sound like the better thing to do then.

Originally Posted by deedeedee I ended up replacing my sourcemod folders, even though I had the exact version that was released and they seem to be working again. The only issue is how my bots tend to not do much with hordes still with car alarms. They do throw molotovs at hordes/events, but rarely a pipebomb.

It could be that in the game (or left 4 dhooks?) the regular horde spawn and car alarm event are different, meaning the plugin doesn't currently know about car alarm? I don't have enough experience for this, but it would explain if they never react to car alarm.

For hordes/events it just selects some bot, and if this bot has a grenade that is "allowed", it will use it. So if the first bot it checks happen to have a molotov it will use a molotov. There is no preference or anything smart going on.

Originally Posted by deedeedee Another question is that is it possible to get bots to throw pipebombs at Tanks? I've made a command so pipebombs explode really early, so I was hoping there's a way to do it.

Yeah, you can do this. For my version of the plugin this can be found on line 238:

ChangeToGrenade(chosenThrower, true, _, true);

The last three options are molotov, pipe and bile. This controls what grenades may be used for the tank, assuming this grenade type is allowed (cvar) and tank targeting is enabled (cvar). If you change this to:

ChangeToGrenade(chosenThrower, true, true, true);

Bots will also throw pipes at tanks.

[Mi.Cura]

Originally Posted by MasterMe [L4D(2)] Grenade Throwing Bots (1.9) [2020-10-23] I have updated the version posted by Crasher_3637 above and made the following changes: Support L4D1 and L4D2 in a single plugin. Add cvar to specify if bots are allowed to use bile (default YES). Add cvar to specify if bots are allowed to use molotov (default NO). Add cvar to specify if bots are allowed to use pipe (default YES). Add cvar to specify if bots can target (throw grenades at) tank (default NO). The reason molotov and tank targeting are disabled by default is because these are too dangerous and unreliable on harder difficulty, such as advanced or expert. It happened to me that a bot really messed up a molotov throw in realism expert, killing the entire team. If you play on easier difficulties, or versus, enabling molotov and tank targeting should be ok. New cvars, see cfg/sourcemod/l4d_grenade_throwing_bots.cfg (for L4D1, the l4d_gtb_allowbile will not be created, plugin autocreates cfg file on first load.) // Allow bots to use bile. 0=Off, 1=On. // - // Default: "1" l4d_gtb_allowbile "1" // Allow bots to use molotov. 0=Off, 1=On. // - // Default: "0" l4d_gtb_allowmolotov "0" // Allow bots to use pipe. 0=Off, 1=On. // - // Default: "1" l4d_gtb_allowpipe "1" // Target tank with bile (L4D2) or molotov, if grenade type is allowed. 0=Off, 1=On. // - // Default: "0" l4d_gtb_targettank "0" Requires Left 4 Dhooks, just like previous versions. Tested in L4D2 without any issues, can someone test on L4D1 and say if it works properly? The plugin has been renamed, make sure to delete the old one!

Your version works well for me, without errors.
Thank you.

[deedeedee]

Originally Posted by MasterMe This makes a lot of sense, and indeed better to throw early 9 times than to throw late and die 1 time, at least for higher difficulties. 3 seconds sound like the better thing to do then. It could be that in the game (or left 4 dhooks?) the regular horde spawn and car alarm event are different, meaning the plugin doesn't currently know about car alarm? I don't have enough experience for this, but it would explain if they never react to car alarm. For hordes/events it just selects some bot, and if this bot has a grenade that is "allowed", it will use it. So if the first bot it checks happen to have a molotov it will use a molotov. There is no preference or anything smart going on. Yeah, you can do this. For my version of the plugin this can be found on line 238: ChangeToGrenade(chosenThrower, true, _, true); The last three options are molotov, pipe and bile. This controls what grenades may be used for the tank, assuming this grenade type is allowed (cvar) and tank targeting is enabled (cvar). If you change this to: ChangeToGrenade(chosenThrower, true, true, true); Bots will also throw pipes at tanks.

Yep, they throw pipebombs at tanks now. Thank you!

Also, I can see what you mean with the horde/car alarms. I should've said it better though. They mainly throw molotovs during events, like at the lift in No Mercy or car alarms, same with hordes. They seem to rarely use pipebombs, however. I don't mind it, though.

[MasterMe]

Originally Posted by MasterMe This makes a lot of sense, and indeed better to throw early 9 times than to throw late and die 1 time, at least for higher difficulties. 3 seconds sound like the better thing to do then.

Just a little fyi: today a horde spawned close and the bot threw the pipebomb at the perfect moment, 2 seconds later would have been too late for sure! So timer 3 seconds is a better setting imo.

[cravenge]

In the future update, these are what to be expected:

- Better checks when the plugin should perform its duty (i.e Not allow bots to throw anything if a human player decides to use their own grenades).
- Proper method of horde detection.
- More accurate aim for bots throwing grenades at Tanks.

[deedeedee]

Originally Posted by cravenge In the future update, these are what to be expected: - Better checks when the plugin should perform its duty (i.e Not allow bots to throw anything if a human player decides to use their own grenades). - Proper method of horde detection. - More accurate aim for bots throwing grenades at Tanks.

Nice to know! Small questions, though.
What do you mean by ''proper method of horde detection'' exactly? Does this mean they'll be able to understand when to throw molotovs and pipebombs in hordes and events?
Will we also be able to change it so we can have bots throw pipebombs and molotovs at the Tanks? I'm asking this due to having a small pipebomb timer so it explodes much quicker and it's more affected. I have this on so bots with pipebombs can stun the Tank.

[woohood]

Was curious and wanted to check this plugin out!
Will it be possible that we'd be seeing a new update of sorts sometime this year for L4D1?

[Mi.Cura]

I'm getting this message. ( SourceMod v1.11.0.6775 )

L 10/21/2021 - 15:11:02: [SM] Exception reported: Property "m_vecOrigin" not found (entity 117/predicted_viewmodel)
L 10/21/2021 - 15:11:02: [SM] Blaming: l4d_grenade_throwing_bots.smx
L 10/21/2021 - 15:11:02: [SM] Call stack trace:
L 10/21/2021 - 15:11:02: [SM] [0] GetEntPropVector
L 10/21/2021 - 15:11:02: [SM] [1] Line 387, l4d_grenade_throwing_bots.sp::L4D2_OnFindScav engeItem
L 10/21/2021 - 15:11:02: [SM] [3] Call_Finish
L 10/21/2021 - 15:11:02: [SM] [4] Line 8945, C:\Servers\L4D2\left4dead2\addons\sourcemod\s cripting\left4dhooks.sp::OnFindScavengeItem