[NiHiLaNTh]

Well, maybe its not the proper forum, since I am not asking how to something, but more for some explanation - what are the baselines. Looking in HLSDK I found this (client.cpp):

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//Creates baselines used for network encoding, especially for player data since players are //not spawned until connect time.
void CreateBaseline(....)
{
// bunch of code.....
}
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Moving forward there can found this (it's better commented, so at least something can be understood):

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//Create pseudo-baselines for items that aren't placed in the map at spawn time, but which //are likely                                to be created during play ( e.g., grenades, ammo packs, projectiles, corpses, //etc. )
void CreateInstancedBaselines(void)
{
         //not so much code
}

I was searching on the Internets and found one topic on some russian forums about instanced baselines and the only useful info was, that they are supposed to optimize network traffic for the entities that are created often (rockets, grenades, weaponboxes and stuff like that in HLDM (and CS)). So is this true?

and here comes another question: whats the difference between "normal" baselines and instanced baselines?

[fysiks]

The answer should be in the code that you removed. I'm guessing it essentially creating the necessary resources for things (players, objects, etc) before they are used. Equivalent to pre-allocating memory.

The difference between them should also be in the code.

[NiHiLaNTh]

Originally Posted by fysiks The answer should be in the code that you removed. I'm guessing it essentially creating the necessary resources for things (players, objects, etc) before they are used. Equivalent to pre-allocating memory. The difference between them should also be in the code.

Well I hooked those 2 forwards, and dumped everything and it seems that InstancedBaselines are not used at all. As for baselines itself - they are called once per entity (in my situation it printed data for func_buyzone, func_illusionary and info_player_ entities.
As for the code, InstancedBaselines have almost no code in HLSDK, so the purpose of them is still not 100% clear.

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void CreateInstancedBaselines(void)
{
int iret = 0;                                    
entity_state_t state;                                 
memset( &state, 0, sizeof( state ) );                                 
// Create any additional baselines here for things like grendates, etc.                               
// iret = ENGINE_INSTANCE_BASELINE( pc->pev->classname, &state );                              
// Destroy objects.                                    
// UTIL_Remove( pc );
}

CreateBaseline

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void CreateBaseline( int player, int eindex, struct entity_state_s *baseline, struct edict_s *entity, int playermodelindex, vec3_t player_mins, vec3_t player_maxs )                                
{
baseline->origin         = entity->v.origin;                                    
baseline->angles        = entity->v.angles;                                    
baseline->frame         = entity->v.frame;                                    
baseline->skin            = (short)entity->v.skin;                                
// and so on....
}