[WildCard65]

Yes, I would like an extension to sourcemod that allows plugins to have control over how plugins are loaded and unloaded that overrides the sourcemod's system of controlling plugins.
I would like natives to register control functions that replace OnPluginStart() and AskPluginToLoad2(), natives to load, unload, pause, reload plugins based on return control handle(from say like a native called CreatePluginControl(const String:controlName[])).
Basically to avoid xyz problem, I want an extension that I can use to control FF2 subplugins(because I'm getting a headstart on FF2 2.0.0 alpha)
Edit: If this is to vague, I apologize, what I want is EXTREMELY hard to describe.
Edit 2: As with my reply #7, I 100% need an extension to control these 2 commands to prevent subplugins from being arguements of(sm plugins load and sm plugins unload)

[Zilor]

Maybe you can use DarthNinja's [Any] Plugin Enable/Disable and put some natives into it or rewrite it to unload plugins when the FF2 cvar changes.

Edit: I think that's not what you asked for :/... I'm sorry.

[WildCard65]

Not really what I'm looking for.
Basically I want to be able to control ff2 subplugins loading so that sourcemod itself doesn't autoload them and load them via natives either when round start/map start and unload them when round end/map end

[ddhoward]

Perhaps you could just remove everything from the forwards that Sourcemod calls. For example, rather than this:

PHP Code:

public OnPluginStart() {
    //stuff
} 


You could do something like this:

PHP Code:

#include <someCustomInclude>

public FF2_OnPluginStart() {
    //stuff
} 


You would then call that forward in the "main" or "core" or "host" plugin.

PHP Code:

new Handle:hfwd_OnPluginStart

public OnPluginStart() {
    hfwd_OnPluginStart = CreateGlobalForward("FF2_OnPluginStart", ET_Ignore);
} 


PHP Code:

    Call_StartForward(hfwd_OnPluginStart);
    Call_Finish(); 


You would, of course, need to have a properly configured INC file that tells the sub-plugins how to interact with the core plugin. Take a look at my example of it.

[ddhoward]

Re-reading your first post, this doesn't really give you the precise control that you'd like over INDIVIDUAL plugins... This may still be possible in Sourcepawn without extensions, though.

[WildCard65]

I may give your suggestion a try when I feel like coding more.
Edit: Quick glance at the sourcemod source and ddhoward and you seem to be correct with how your doing it.
Edit 2: Nvm, see next reply.

[WildCard65]

Ya, ddhoward, I just realized I will still need a plugin that I can call a native to set a plugin to not be loaded/unloaded by sm plugins load and sm plugins unload.

[asherkin]

The extension API doesn't expose functionality to block loading (or any other control over plugin lifetime).

[friagram]

Tis makes no sense.
Ff2 plugins require ff2 to be loaded to use the natives.
Ff2 also automatically loads and unloads the subplugins.

The easiest way is to just put them in the disabled directory, then they won't autoload... You can then manually load/unload them by specifying the path. Usually I do that with configs, but you could servercommand it.

Also, it won't autoload non .smx files, but you could name it like .ff2 and it won't autoload, or .abc... Whatever.

Also, loading lots of .ff2 files is dumb. It should be /disabled/freaks/someplugin.smx
However, there is no reason to dynamically load/unload the ff2 subplugins, as they won't work without ff2 enabled anyways.

[WildCard65]

Originally Posted by friagram Also, it won't autoload non .smx files, but you could name it like .ff2 and it won't autoload, or .abc... Whatever.

Actually fiagram, from what I see in sourcemod's PluginSys.cpp, it loads any plugin it can open no matter the extension:

CPlugin *CPlugin::CreatePlugin(const char *file, char *error, size_t maxlength)
{
	char fullpath[PLATFORM_MAX_PATH];
	g_SourceMod.BuildPath(Path_SM, fullpath, sizeof(fullpath), "plugins/%s", file);
	FILE *fp = fopen(fullpath, "rb");

	CPlugin *pPlugin = new CPlugin(file);

	if (!fp)
	{
		if (error)
		{
			UTIL_Format(error, maxlength, "Unable to open file");
		}
		pPlugin->m_status = Plugin_BadLoad;
		return pPlugin;
	}

	fclose(fp);

	return pPlugin;
}