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vijayar
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Old 02-18-2021 , 08:50   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by J_Tanzanite View Post
The updater plugin from my experience can sometimes be slow to react (if I remember correctly, it has a 24 hour delay before checking for updates), version 1.6.3 was just uploaded yesterday, so I wouldn't worry if it doesn't react right away.

That said, you could try the command sm_updater_check, to force a check...
Which sadly... Has a 1 hour delay to prevent spam...

If it doesn't work within a day or two, then something definitely is wrong.
Updater didn't update to the latest release ; My plugins list FYI

PHP Code:
[SMListing 28 plugins:
  
01 "Basic Commands" (1.10.0.6502by AlliedModders LLC
  02 
"[CSGO]Multi 1v1 - Deagle 1 Tap" (1.0by S4muRaY'
  03 "Basic Chat" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  04 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  05 "Basic Votes" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  06 "[CS:GO] Server Hibernate Fix" (0.0.5) by Nefarius/jokroepke
  07 "Fun Commands" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  08 "Admin Help" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  09 "Nextmap" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  10 "Client Preferences" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  11 "[Lilac] Little Anti-Cheat" (1.6.1) by J_Tanzanite
  12 "Basic Comm Control" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  13 "Weapons & Knives" (1.7.1) by kgns | oyunhost.net
  14 "CS:GO Multi1v1" (1.1.8) by splewis
  15 "ServerAdvertisements3" (3.1.4) by ESK0
  16 "Fix Hint Color Messages" (1.2.2 Franc1sco franug github version) by Phoenix (˙·٠●Феникс●٠·˙)
  17 "Gloves" (1.0.5) by kgns | oyunhost.net
  18 "Sound Commands" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  19 "Anti-Flood" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  20 "Disable Radar" (1.2.2) by Internet Bully, some random guy
  21 "Fun Votes" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  22 "gameME Plugin" (4.8.1) by TTS Oetzel & Goerz GmbH
  23 "Reserved Slots" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  24 "Updater" (1.2.2) by GoD-Tony
  25 "Basic Ban Commands" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  26 "Admin Menu" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  27 "Admin File Reader" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  28 "Player Commands" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC 

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J_Tanzanite
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Old 02-18-2021 , 08:55   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Updater didn't update to the latest release ; My plugins list FYI

PHP Code:
[SMListing 28 plugins:
  
01 "Basic Commands" (1.10.0.6502by AlliedModders LLC
  02 
"[CSGO]Multi 1v1 - Deagle 1 Tap" (1.0by S4muRaY'
  03 "Basic Chat" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  04 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  05 "Basic Votes" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  06 "[CS:GO] Server Hibernate Fix" (0.0.5) by Nefarius/jokroepke
  07 "Fun Commands" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  08 "Admin Help" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  09 "Nextmap" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  10 "Client Preferences" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  11 "[Lilac] Little Anti-Cheat" (1.6.1) by J_Tanzanite
  12 "Basic Comm Control" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  13 "Weapons & Knives" (1.7.1) by kgns | oyunhost.net
  14 "CS:GO Multi1v1" (1.1.8) by splewis
  15 "ServerAdvertisements3" (3.1.4) by ESK0
  16 "Fix Hint Color Messages" (1.2.2 Franc1sco franug github version) by Phoenix (˙·٠●Феникс●٠·˙)
  17 "Gloves" (1.0.5) by kgns | oyunhost.net
  18 "Sound Commands" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  19 "Anti-Flood" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  20 "Disable Radar" (1.2.2) by Internet Bully, some random guy
  21 "Fun Votes" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  22 "gameME Plugin" (4.8.1) by TTS Oetzel & Goerz GmbH
  23 "Reserved Slots" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  24 "Updater" (1.2.2) by GoD-Tony
  25 "Basic Ban Commands" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  26 "Admin Menu" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  27 "Admin File Reader" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC
  28 "Player Commands" (1.10.0.6502) by AlliedModders LLC 
And if you try the force command?
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Old 02-18-2021 , 09:21   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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And if you try the force command?
No I did not as mentioned in my earlier post, left the system as-is to check what happens. I will run it now and check again
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Old 02-18-2021 , 10:01   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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No I did not as mentioned in my earlier post, left the system as-is to check what happens. I will run it now and check again
Alright, I did some testing and found a few things.
Whenever the updater actually downloads an update, it doesn't refresh plugins.
You have to wait until a map change I believe, a server restart, or type "sm plugins refresh" before the new version is actually loaded.

So it might have downloaded the update, just not actually... Loaded it.

Another thing I found was this, sm_updater_status tells you if it is even checking for updates for Lilac.
On my test server, it didn't, and a server restart fixed it (probably because I had installed the updater plugin after installing Lilac...).

Another thing I found was that the updater plugin would give errors as it tried to update itself (and failed)...
Took me quite some time to fix it, because I had to recompile it.
Which... Was "fun", as it had include files which took me time to find...

AAaaaaannnd the compilation failed, due to deprecated syntax...
After fixing the old include files with their errors, I was left with 26 errors...
After fixing all of those problems, I finally could fix the plugin and test the updater functionality.

I'm starting to wonder if the updater plugin should get... umm... updated ;)

Edit:
Just to clarify, I'm not saying the issue lies within the updater. Several servers still use it.
There may very well be an issue in Lilac in regards to auto-updating.

Last edited by J_Tanzanite; 02-18-2021 at 10:11. Reason: Clarification...
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Old 02-19-2021 , 02:28   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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I ran the forced update command. No luck didn't update

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Originally Posted by J_Tanzanite View Post
Alright, I did some testing and found a few things.
Whenever the updater actually downloads an update, it doesn't refresh plugins.
You have to wait until a map change I believe, a server restart, or type "sm plugins refresh" before the new version is actually loaded.
Tried the above, still no luck.

Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Tanzanite View Post
Another thing I found was this, sm_updater_status tells you if it is even checking for updates for Lilac.
On my test server, it didn't, and a server restart fixed it (probably because I had installed the updater plugin after installing Lilac...).
This is the output

PHP Code:
sm_updater_status
[Updater] -- Status Begin --
Plugins being monitored for updates:
  [
0]  updater.smx
Last update check was 0.0 minutes ago
.
[
Updater] --- Status End --- 
Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Tanzanite View Post
I'm starting to wonder if the updater plugin should get... umm... updated ;)
That only God & Tony can tell !!!, not sure if they are active here...

Thanks for all your help and effort you are putting in
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Old 02-26-2021 , 20:18   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Hey, thank you very much for keeping the plugin supported J_Tanzanite!

Are you able to support whitelisting of commands for the convar checker?

I currently have an issue where it collides with another plugin, and i'd love to just "modify" the plugin, but then i'd have to do it everytime you apply updates .
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Old 02-26-2021 , 20:41   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Hey, thank you very much for keeping the plugin supported J_Tanzanite!

Are you able to support whitelisting of commands for the convar checker?

I currently have an issue where it collides with another plugin, and i'd love to just "modify" the plugin, but then i'd have to do it everytime you apply updates .
Ah, thanks

Anyway, "Are you able to support whitelisting of commands for the convar checker?" currently not...
I have considered re-writing the entire ConVar checker, because people have asked about it and it would be somewhat neat to have game specific checks...

Something people have asked for is me doing something similar to SMAC where you can dynamically add and remove ConVars to be checked, and I seriously don't want to... It would be a messy and annoying thing, honestly.
And considering KAC and SMAC already do that, it would be better for people to use those plugins/modules if they want that kind of control over ConVar query checks. Reinventing the wheel and having YET another plugin do the same thing is... Uncool.

It's not necessarily off the table, it's just the least fun thing I can think of to actually implement.
Especially since it would be mostly useless and a waste of time because most cheats nowadays spoof ConVar query replies, so query checking mostly deals with bad/old cheats and exploiters.
Hence why ConVar checking gets so little attention.

Currently, you could use the Forward Lilac provides to block cheat detections, like ConVar detections, but it doesn't tell you which ConVar it actually detected.

So currently, I would just recommend you to set "lilac_convar" to "0" and perhaps use SMAC or KAC for ConVar checking, since they let you remove and add ConVars to be checked...
Plus, they by default check a LOT more ConVars than Lilac does.
Sorry if that's a little disappointing.
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Old 02-27-2021 , 02:34   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Can you add in future update?
1) Logging to Discord.
2) Alert to admins (in-game chat) suspecting for aimbots or other things.
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Old 02-27-2021 , 16:35   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Hy man, I think cheat detects and ban a user, but the ban doesnt show up on banned_user.cfg

Lilac log:

PHP Code:
24/02/2021 09:39:01 [Version 1.6.3] {Name"[PT] Z>.<Z" SteamIDSTEAM_1:1:580659563 IP: **.**.**.**} is suspected of using an aimbot (DetectionDeltaTotalDeltaDetectedAutoshoot).
24/02/2021 09:39:05 [Version 1.6.3] {Name"[PT] Z>.<Z" SteamIDSTEAM_1:1:580659563 IP: **.**.**.**} was detected and banned for Anti-Duck-Delay.
    
Pos={-796,2106,-105}, Angles={-1.58379,4.30647,0.00000}, Map="de_dust2"Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_m4a1_silencer"Latency={Inc:0.001807,Out:0.018403}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.009033,Out:0.017578}, ConnectionTime={275.165405 seconds}, GameTime={161.156250 seconds

This says, detected and banned, but didnt appears nothing of bans file!
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Old 02-27-2021 , 16:46   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Hy man, I think cheat detects and ban a user, but the ban doesnt show up on banned_user.cfg

Lilac log:

PHP Code:
24/02/2021 09:39:01 [Version 1.6.3] {Name"[PT] Z>.<Z" SteamIDSTEAM_1:1:580659563 IP: **.**.**.**} is suspected of using an aimbot (DetectionDeltaTotalDeltaDetectedAutoshoot).
24/02/2021 09:39:05 [Version 1.6.3] {Name"[PT] Z>.<Z" SteamIDSTEAM_1:1:580659563 IP: **.**.**.**} was detected and banned for Anti-Duck-Delay.
    
Pos={-796,2106,-105}, Angles={-1.58379,4.30647,0.00000}, Map="de_dust2"Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_m4a1_silencer"Latency={Inc:0.001807,Out:0.018403}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.009033,Out:0.017578}, ConnectionTime={275.165405 seconds}, GameTime={161.156250 seconds

This says, detected and banned, but didnt appears nothing of bans file!
Hi, firstly, please edit your comment to remove IPs from logs. I don't like the sharing of such things because some people online take things too far.

Anyway, when Lilac bans with/through basebans (Not sure how to formulate that), it calls this function:
PHP Code:
BanClient() 
So the bans should work.

I've had this happen in the past where basebans don't work.
Try this: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=195093
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