[fxfighter]

Originally Posted by minimiller ...but all we want is a fun war! Im trying to convince him to get amxmodx on the server, because theres sooooo many anti-cheat plugins etc. but he says that ppl wont want to mix with us because theres also plugins that can help us win...

Why should you trust them if they cant trust you?
You will just have amxx runing to be able to use a anticheat.
If you give them same admin access as you while playing and disable everything else then it should be okey.(Admin access not ftp...)
Because they will be able to do same stuff as you and see what plugins you got runing and cmds availiable.
Sure you can have edited the anti-cheat to work auto whit nick control but its still a lot safer then playing on a unprotected server.

If they still dont trust you then how can you trust them for not runing any client side program to boost themself.
Because its more suspicus not being allowed to run a anticheat under same conditions as everyone else then runing a unprotected server,
where enyone can use cheats to help themselfs.

Btw don't ask why i am here i obvious got lost while surfing on the webb

[YamiKaitou]

• VAC
• Admins who I trust with banning powers

[minimiller]

he says that amxmodx ruins the server
But it really dosent
Ill try to get him to install it for like a day and see if performance decreases or not

[plasmo]

vac does jack
and amxx shouldnt even be on a war server

[fxfighter]

Originally Posted by plasmo and amxx shouldnt even be on a war server

could you explain why?
if amxmodx isnt allowed how about metamod?

[ConnorMcLeod]

Originally Posted by YamiKaitou VAC Admins who I trust with banning powers

+ SteamBans

(HLGuard and Hackhunter are just useless)

[plasmo]

Originally Posted by fxfighter could you explain why? if amxmodx isnt allowed how about metamod?

preferable plain server but metamod is fine

have you ever seen Monstrous the movie?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...51453430573504

its a movie about a clan using custom coded metamod plugins
to cheat in wars

since most people dont have the knowledge on how to code metamod plugins, amxx is preferable turned off during wars

wouldnt want to see admins flying through walls / listening to the other team / godmode and blah
you get my point

MONSTER KILLL
lol

[fxfighter]

Originally Posted by plasmo preferable plain server but metamod is fine . its a movie about a clan using custom coded metamod plugins to cheat in wars since most people dont have the knowledge on how to code metamod plugins, amxx is preferable turned off during wars wouldnt want to see admins flying through walls / listening to the other team / godmode and blah you get my point MONSTER KILLL lol

well you can make better cheats and more whit metamod then amxx.
and as i said if you give the opposite team same admin access they could pretty much do the same thing unless theres a nick check.

why do you prefer a plain server before one whit anticheat?
Thats something i really wanna know right now.

btw the video is to obvius.
If i saw one thing getting downloaded while playing a "normal match" on a "normal map" then i would leave them after calling them yerks for failing in cheating or removing mods while playing on a plain server.

[FuZ!on]

To be honest, me and my friends put AMXx on our scrim server every now and then and add some plugins like grab and invisibility. We turn everything off and it looks like a normal server. No words are said about the amxx through chat or anything. We put each other in places that you would not normally find a fellow and just say we boosted him there.

So, to make a long story short, a plain server is the best way to go. You will usually know if somebody is cheating if they start to pull some bullshit shots.

[plasmo]

Originally Posted by fxfighter well you can make better cheats and more whit metamod then amxx.

well like i said. not everyone has knowledge to do that
there are more amxx coders than metamod coders

Originally Posted by fxfighter why do you prefer a plain server before one whit anticheat?

which 'anticheat' are you refering to?
because i sure as hell wont consider HLGuard or one of those 'aimbot detectors' a good one

Originally Posted by fxfighter If i saw one thing getting downloaded while playing a "normal match" on a "normal map"

normal match? how does one know if its a normal match or not in an amxx server. and some stuff dont need to be downloaded as its already included with halflife
good examples: ent moving / hl monster models / godmode / invisibility

Originally Posted by FuZ!on To be honest, me and my friends put AMXx on our scrim server every now and then and add some plugins like grab and invisibility. We turn everything off and it looks like a normal server. No words are said about the amxx through chat or anything. We put each other in places that you would not normally find a fellow and just say we boosted him there. So, to make a long story short, a plain server is the best way to go. You will usually know if somebody is cheating if they start to pull some bullshit shots.

100% agreed with what youre saying
and this is why a plain with +-metamod should be used in wars
so why metamod and not just only plain? well just type 'meta list' and if theres just some plugin like 'Ping Booster' or etc. thats fine

there isnt really any public command for amxx so people can check what plugins are loaded

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imo best anti cheats are client side anti cheats and active admins
serverside anti cheat is just a nono. i would neverEEVR want to touch the server