[CS:Go] Problem with the situation about !ws / !knife

fragnichtnach · **Author**

A friend of mine write a reddit post about the current state of the art about these !ws / !knife /glove plugins. I know this plugin is against the guidelines. But Valve don't care about the backdoor.

In the whole he is saying that it is mostly impossible to start up with a new server not using this plugin. I myself would love to bring this up to Valve. It would be fair if everyone is allowed to use it or it isn't possible for everyone. People who care about their guidelines are fucked up at the moment.

If you are interested to add a comment or up-/downvote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffen...these_knifews/

ghostofmybrain · 03-25-2018 , 10:36 Re: [CS:Go] Problem with the situation about !ws / !knife

It really does suck, but I would wager 99% of the reddit community does not care even a little, and probably prefer to play on !ws servers anyway. I would suggest trying to plead your case elsewhere.

Indarello · *Last edited by Indarello; 03-25-2018 at 12:16.*

Who use knife/ws still pay money to vlave
Maybe not so much
You should start your own unique server, make it different from others, so players will go on your server not for skins
I made my own server because every server of warcraft gamemode was too bad (near me).
And I realy dont understand who creates deathmatch servers which are not differ from other servers of this gamemode
Maybe if classic gamemode, you could be admin/sell vip
But most servers are all the same, I dont know why people copy them and start up
Another reason why it is hard to start up, maybe because of many people go play PUBG?

shanapu · 03-25-2018 , 12:58 Re: [CS:Go] Problem with the situation about !ws / !knife

you can absolutely start up a new server successfully without use of these plugins.
it is primarily dependent on your strategy, your staff & the mod.

ghostofmybrain · *Last edited by ghostofmybrain; 03-25-2018 at 13:53.*

I disagree. At least in the US, nobody cares about communities anymore. Nobody cares what the server is providing. The people who want to play "unique mods" still play CS:S. Nobody cares if you have admins or not, nobody cares about the personality of the server. There just really isn't much "community" anymore.

8guawong · 03-25-2018 , 23:01 Re: [CS:Go] Problem with the situation about !ws / !knife

https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/US/?

top 6 usa server does not have !ws / !glove etc.

(although it looks like one of sm moderator is hosting !ws / !glove servers?)

if you think just by adding !ws / !glove to your server title your server will be popular

why don't you use !ws / !gloves yourself?

**DarkDeviL** · 03-26-2018 , 00:05 Re: [CS:Go] Problem with the situation about !ws / !knife

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Originally Posted by 8guawong

(although it looks like one of sm moderator is hosting !ws / !glove servers?)

if you think just by adding !ws / !glove to your server title your server will be popular

why don't you use !ws / !gloves yourself?

Judging solely based on the server's hostname, I would say it seems like you're right.

Considering your other lines, I will consider to add !hamburger to the hostname of my servers from now on, hoping that they will then be much more popular than if I didn't!

8guawong · 03-26-2018 , 02:40 Re: [CS:Go] Problem with the situation about !ws / !knife

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Originally Posted by arne1288

Judging solely based on the server's hostname, I would say it seems like you're right.

Considering your other lines, I will consider to add !hamburger to the hostname of my servers from now on, hoping that they will then be much more popular than if I didn't!

i meant use the !ws/!glove plugin and then add !ws/!glove to the server name

but i know you knew what i meant

ghostofmybrain · *Last edited by ghostofmybrain; 03-26-2018 at 17:53.*

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Originally Posted by 8guawong

https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/US/?

top 6 usa server does not have !ws / !glove etc.

Look at what type they are, though. That's not exactly the same thing we were talking about here.

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why don't you use !ws / !gloves yourself?

Because I don't want to attract that type of person to my server. I have no interest in a bunch of little kids who don't care about the game that I grew up playing coming into the server and being afk 80% of the round time while they look at their skins. I also don't care that my servers are empty 80% of the time because of it. The people who come in when I play are people I want to play with. They care about CS and they care about playing CS.

However, that doesn't change the fact that if you want to run a CS:GO community around the actual CS game, you need to run weapon skin plugins.

Lubricant Jam · 04-05-2018 , 04:13 Re: [CS:Go] Problem with the situation about !ws / !knife

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Originally Posted by ghostofmybrain

Because I don't want to attract that type of person to my server. I have no interest in a bunch of little kids who don't care about the game that I grew up playing coming into the server and being afk 80% of the round time while they look at their skins. I also don't care that my servers are empty 80% of the time because of it. The people who come in when I play are people I want to play with. They care about CS and they care about playing CS.

However, that doesn't change the fact that if you want to run a CS:GO community around the actual CS game, you need to run weapon skin plugins.

I respect what you're trying to say but you're simply moaning as a whole. You say it's hard to create a community now-a-days because of these plugins but then you go on to say you don't want to attract those type of players to your community and that you don't care your servers are empty? This seems like an irrelevant conversation in that case.

I use these plugins on my servers as everyone else states, it's what the players want. It's our job as community owners to provide what the players want otherwise there wouldn't be an influx on players. Those "little kids" are what make up the game now, all of the retro players are starting to get bored of the low updates, shitty VAC & overall quality of the core game.

Valve will never listen to a measly reddit post, especially when they're making a lot of money from the sales of CS:GO copies that are needed to create tokens. Valve is in CS:GO for the money, nothing else. If you want to start a proper community then head over to TF2 where Gaben himself plays the game and it is a much more close net community with constant updates.

I personally felt the same when I moved to CS:GO from GMOD in the regards of it was hard to start without these plugins but it's honestly due to the fact the skin market is so diluted with expensive ass skins which are very hard to obtain via keys/cases and cost a lot of money so why would someone spend hundreds on some pixels on their screens when they can just join a server they like... and get them for free?