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J_Tanzanite
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Old 11-01-2020 , 23:33   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by MaloModo View Post
How would this be with Fistful of Frags? I am running SMAC which seems fine.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2...tful_of_Frags/
Fistful of Frags has not been tested, so I don't know.

I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work, so I suspect that Lilac would work for that game...
But the only way to know for sure would be to test it.
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Rav1sh
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Old 11-03-2020 , 05:49   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Hello, I've been experiencing these errors the last few days.

Code:
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM] Exception reported: Translation failed: invalid client index 1601069410 (arg 6)
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM] Blaming: lilac.smx
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM] Call stack trace:
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM]   [0] Format
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM]   [1] Line 2236, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_ban_client
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM]   [2] Line 1796, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_detected_anti_duck_delay
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM]   [3] Line 1573, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::OnPlayerRunCmd
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM] Exception reported: Translation failed: invalid client index 1601069410 (arg 6)
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM] Blaming: lilac.smx
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM] Call stack trace:
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM]   [0] Format
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM]   [1] Line 2230, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_ban_client
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM]   [2] Line 1903, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_detected_bhop
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM]   [3] Line 1628, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::OnPlayerRunCmd
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM] Exception reported: Translation failed: invalid client index 1601069410 (arg 6)
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM] Blaming: lilac.smx
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM] Call stack trace:
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM]   [0] Format
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM]   [1] Line 2232, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_ban_client
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM]   [2] Line 1994, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_detected_aimbot
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM]   [3] Line 1501, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::timer_check_aimbot
L 11/03/2020 - 00:04:48: Error log file session closed.
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Old 11-03-2020 , 10:24   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by Rav1sh View Post
Hello, I've been experiencing these errors the last few days.

Code:
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM] Exception reported: Translation failed: invalid client index 1601069410 (arg 6)
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM] Blaming: lilac.smx
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM] Call stack trace:
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM]   [0] Format
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM]   [1] Line 2236, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_ban_client
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM]   [2] Line 1796, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_detected_anti_duck_delay
L 11/02/2020 - 23:47:20: [SM]   [3] Line 1573, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::OnPlayerRunCmd
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM] Exception reported: Translation failed: invalid client index 1601069410 (arg 6)
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM] Blaming: lilac.smx
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM] Call stack trace:
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM]   [0] Format
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM]   [1] Line 2230, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_ban_client
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM]   [2] Line 1903, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_detected_bhop
L 11/02/2020 - 23:48:08: [SM]   [3] Line 1628, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::OnPlayerRunCmd
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM] Exception reported: Translation failed: invalid client index 1601069410 (arg 6)
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM] Blaming: lilac.smx
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM] Call stack trace:
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM]   [0] Format
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM]   [1] Line 2232, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_ban_client
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM]   [2] Line 1994, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::lilac_detected_aimbot
L 11/02/2020 - 23:58:07: [SM]   [3] Line 1501, C:\scripting\lilac.sp::timer_check_aimbot
L 11/03/2020 - 00:04:48: Error log file session closed.
i think you need to update the translation file (Translation failed)
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JLmelenchon
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Old 11-14-2020 , 09:59   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Question: Does it ban isntantly on angle cheat detection ? Because I can't remember how many times there were false positives with that on SMAC. That will be better if it bans after x detections in my opinion just for safety.
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J_Tanzanite
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Old 11-17-2020 , 14:13   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by JLmelenchon View Post
Question: Does it ban isntantly on angle cheat detection ? Because I can't remember how many times there were false positives with that on SMAC. That will be better if it bans after x detections in my opinion just for safety.
If I remember correctly, SMAC had issues with that due to the fact that it checked yaw angles.
Lilac doesn't check if yaw angles are "out of bounds", as they get normalized anyway and yaw doesn't work like pitch does.

Lilac bans on the first invalid angle detection, as there is no need to wait until the N'th detection if the check is done properly in the first place.

Lilac has been out for approx 8-9 months now, and the only issue that has been reported for Angle-Cheat detections was for L4D 1&2.. That was fixed a month ago I think, or two months ago.
Since then, there has been no reports of any problems.
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Old 11-29-2020 , 23:36   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Is there any way you can make it disallow cl_interp, 5 values past the decimal? I have someone using 0.00000000001 who's constantly accused of cheating with spy. I don't know if that overflows the cl_interp value or not but restricting the decimal places would be a lot more reassuring. Thank you.

Last edited by Sreaper; 11-29-2020 at 23:59.
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HarryPotter
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Old 12-02-2020 , 08:31   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by J_Tanzanite View Post
If I remember correctly, SMAC had issues with that due to the fact that it checked yaw angles.
Lilac doesn't check if yaw angles are "out of bounds", as they get normalized anyway and yaw doesn't work like pitch does.

Lilac bans on the first invalid angle detection, as there is no need to wait until the N'th detection if the check is done properly in the first place.

Lilac has been out for approx 8-9 months now, and the only issue that has been reported for Angle-Cheat detections was for L4D 1&2.. That was fixed a month ago I think, or two months ago.
Since then, there has been no reports of any problems.
I think there are still many false positives with Angle-Cheat detections,
my server just launches within an hour, and too many people angle cheat in l4d2, I doubt they use cheat really.

maybe you can just add an option: log warning "XXX is suspected of using an angle-cheat" instead of instantly ban.

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J_Tanzanite
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Old 12-02-2020 , 13:51   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by HarryPotter View Post
I think there are still many false positives with Angle-Cheat detections,
my server just launches within an hour, and too many people angle cheat in l4d2, I doubt they use cheat really.

maybe you can just an cvar option: log warning "XXX is suspected of using an angle-cheat" instead of instantly ban.

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This is the first report I've gotten about Roll angles being out of bounds.
According to your log, this is all on the map "c2m1_highway", does this happen anywhere else?
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HarryPotter
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Old 12-02-2020 , 21:04   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by J_Tanzanite View Post
This is the first report I've gotten about Roll angles being out of bounds.
According to your log, this is all on the map "c2m1_highway", does this happen anywhere else?
it happenes every map, I will investigate
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Old 12-03-2020 , 01:38   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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If you can patch angles so they can't be used to cheat, why it will need to ban anyway ? I disabled the detection of it but it will still be good to have the log.
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