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Mikado
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Old 10-03-2019 , 12:44   Sv and var can be ping related ?
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Hello guys,

I'm having a small problem with my 128ticks server hosted on Verygames on a 4.2Ghz CPU, the var and sv goes red when the server is 26/26, i asked their support they said it's because most of the players have average ping 60~100, i'm not sure about their answer so he i'm asking for others opinions, or if someone else has a 128ticks server with high ping players does he get those spikes ?
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Old 10-05-2019 , 13:25   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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IMO when sv and var are red the CPU is very busy processing game frames, so the ping may go high.
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Old 10-13-2019 , 18:11   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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No, you didn't get my question.

I mean, if average players ping is 50~90, can it affect the sv and var ( makes the CPU very busy processing game frames ) ? Or it's only addons related ?
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Old 10-14-2019 , 01:10   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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I doubt that all your players are very far away from your server. High ping of all players is an effect of high cpu usage, not the other way around.

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Old 10-14-2019 , 02:23   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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Well, most of my players are from MENA and the server is located in Paris (OVH), so yeah average ping is 60-90 can even go more than 100 for some of them, that's why i asked if the sv/var can be affected by this especially for 128ticks.
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Old 10-14-2019 , 14:19   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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From my experience ping won't affect server's performance, but a 26/26 slots 128 tick server seems overloaded to me. Just try to reduce slots number for a while and monitor sv & var (pings will be the same obviously).

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Old 10-14-2019 , 20:13   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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Do you have more information on what processor they are providing you with?

128 Tick with 26 slots can run with a variance of 0.05 on a 4.0GHz+ processor.
Example.

It would either be that your server is plugin heavy and causing you issue or your provider is overselling/poorly optimized.
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Old 10-15-2019 , 04:57   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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It would either be that your server is plugin heavy and causing you issue or your provider is overselling/poorly optimized.
IMHO, in both cases is an overloaded CPU problem.
It will be very useful more info about per core CPU load while sv & var are red.
If the customer has root access to the server, it is customer's responsability to optimize the server.

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Old 10-17-2019 , 16:09   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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Do you have more information on what processor they are providing you with?

It would either be that your server is plugin heavy and causing you issue or your provider is overselling/poorly optimized.
The CPU is: I7 6700K @ 4.2Ghz and 64 Go DDR4 Ram ( shared obviously ).
Im using only Sourcemod default plugins & sourcebans++, was thinking to use server without sourcemod but even if there will be no lag it makes no sense running a community server without SM...

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If the customer has root access to the server, it is customer's responsability to optimize the server.
The don't provide anything, you only get that easy to use panel...

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Old 10-17-2019 , 18:40   Re: Sv and var can be ping related ?
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It would be that the server is maxing out the resources provided for itself, that is why you're experiencing this issue. I don't agree with their reasoning of "why" because ping can be a correlation between high sv/var but it would not be the reason for it. The reason for why would be any of the following:
  • They did not allocate you enough resources for running the maximum slot usage
  • They have oversold their resources and when each server is using maximum, this occurs
  • They did not optimize their servers to run as well as they could be running

Could be something else I missed, but I would guess any of the above as to why this is happening to you.
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