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Old 07-09-2018 , 19:21   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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It's really hard to become players on your server without these scripts "!ws !knife !nametag" and more Arkarr. Give me servers that do not use this plugin and run well. I know thats not correct to use the banned plugins, but the players like that and Player play on your Server.

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Old 07-09-2018 , 19:26   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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I think the real problem here is Valve, the CS:GO team refuse to implement proper technical restrictions. I have lost all sympathy for them on this issue with how they've handled it (compared to TF2 for example, which moved past the player attachment restrictions successfully very quickly).
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Old 07-09-2018 , 20:03   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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@Arkarr

It's really hard to become players on your server without these scripts "!ws !knife !nametag" and more Arkarr. Give me servers that do not use this plugin and run well. I know thats not correct to use the banned plugins, but the players like that and Player play on your Server.

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So... It's pure lazyness ? Because, honeslty, there is plenty of community wich run perfectly fine without the needs of those shady plugins. The fact that you can't see them worries me.
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Old 07-09-2018 , 20:04   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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I think the real problem here is Valve, the CS:GO team refuse to implement proper technical restrictions. I have lost all sympathy for them on this issue with how they've handled it (compared to TF2 for example, which moved past the player attachment restrictions successfully very quickly).
And we have no idea why they don't want to do anything ? Is there some links or website with the actual discussion ? I would like to understand...
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Old 07-09-2018 , 21:31   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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@Arkarr

It's really hard to become players on your server without these scripts "!ws !knife !nametag" and more Arkarr. Give me servers that do not use this plugin and run well. I know thats not correct to use the banned plugins, but the players like that and Player play on your Server.

have a nice day
It astonishes me how poorly the servers with those scripts generally tend to run. People would rather play in a server spiking red variance every couple seconds where their bullets don't hit anywhere near where they're aiming and their fps tanks to 25 as long as they get to look at shiny skins.
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Old 07-09-2018 , 21:31   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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So... It's pure lazyness ? Because, honeslty, there is plenty of community wich run perfectly fine without the needs of those shady plugins. The fact that you can't see them worries me.
Are there? Name one in the US.
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Old 07-09-2018 , 21:39   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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Honestly! I don't mind if I use those plugins or not. The things is I have to pay over 300$ for my server co-location service... My servers was once so clean and crowded and perfect without using those plugins. But since they came, it still fine. But it's strange, after Valve put GSLT ban, players suddenly love !ws !gloves !knife ... And they change to play on servers with that.
Although my community have over 18000 members, more than 6000 are active players.... So I have to use them , and have to pay more for token service. Also have to use vpp motd ads in server too to replace some money loss.
Well , it really hard for any server owner or community that working almost like non-profits. Very struggles to keep server and community alive. Everything are HAVE TO PAY.
Of course ) I never asking any coders here to do stupid things to break more rules ) because that will lead to more restrictions and community destroying.
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Old 07-10-2018 , 01:20   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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Honestly! I don't mind if I use those plugins or not. The things is I have to pay over 300$ for my server co-location service... My servers was once so clean and crowded and perfect without using those plugins. But since they came, it still fine. But it's strange, after Valve put GSLT ban, players suddenly love !ws !gloves !knife ... And they change to play on servers with that.
Although my community have over 18000 members, more than 6000 are active players.... So I have to use them , and have to pay more for token service. Also have to use vpp motd ads in server too to replace some money loss.
Well , it really hard for any server owner or community that working almost like non-profits. Very struggles to keep server and community alive. Everything are HAVE TO PAY.
Of course ) I never asking any coders here to do stupid things to break more rules ) because that will lead to more restrictions and community destroying.
well i'm agree with what you say, it's an unfair competition which has came over community servers, i my self have many useful stuff for my servers and people who rent them many usefull stuff that can help them manage their servers even without being in their servers but you know what? all they care about is Skins, Skins and Skins...
if anything should goes, i think it should be the same for everyone.
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Old 07-10-2018 , 02:20   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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So I am the main owner of the game portal CMG (2013). I have it as a registered company in the Czech Republic, I pay taxes and everything related to it. There are plenty of gaming portals who don't even have this (registered business).

I never had the need to bypass the Valve's conditions. Now I have no choice. From the marketing perspective people (players) require these things, if the server dosn't have this things, so doesn't have a chance to succeed, unfortunately.

From the year when it was introduced GSLT everything went downhill. We had 7 daily IP ban (thanks to it was a wave of criticism at Valve). We have removed all of these supposedly forbidden things. After we have received next GSLT ban, but now permanently. Everything we have thoroughly checked and we have received a permanent ban GSLT again! Without any information on the extent to which server and what exactly! On our servers, we use our models of weapons - and for that, we got the ban, why?

At that moment, I said to myself that this must stop! This bullying by the Valve must be stop. We are buying a new GSLT tokens everyday to keep our servers up. I'm ashamed of it? No. It costs a lot of money (the game CS:GO, SIM card). Valve have a lot of money out of these permanent bans GSLT.

We know all too well that the GSLT was created for profit. This stupid feature is applied on TF2, CS:S, and why? Valve has never been against modifying their games. Valve for me at the moment is one of the worst companies. Constant bans and nothing new.

The valve buries the CS:GO community and their games. We not.
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Old 07-10-2018 , 03:27   Re: [DISCUSSION] Why do you break the rules?
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I have read and understood your feedbacks, but yet, what you are telling me is that the players don't come to play on your server because you have not that kind of thing that make your server special (in that case; weapon skins).

Sooo... Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that if you find an original idea that no other server has, every player would join your servers and would forger about skins and stuff.

Because now, it seems that at the very beginning, one server had that skins plugin, then another server and another one etc.

At the end it has become quiet necessary to run this plugin to have players, right ?

Well, I still believe that you don't want to make a difference with your server with something unique on it and choose the "easy way": using the same disallowed plugin to be ranked in the same level as the other servers.
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