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FreezerPT
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Old 04-26-2020 , 09:17   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Originally Posted by J_Tanzanite View Post
Thank you.
But Little Anti-Cheat does not detect the usage of wallhacks.

You might wanna look into SMAC, which has an Anti-Wallhack module.
It doesn't detect the usage of wallhacks either, but it blocks wallhacks from working properly.
It does slightly increase the CPU usage on the server tho.

If I remember correctly, that module doesn't run on CS:GO anymore.
So instead, you have to set your "sv_occlude_players" to 1 for that game.
I thought it would detect wallhack because of the Eye angle! And I think I had a false ban for bhop like!

This two bans are true bans, because the account get vac banned after 2 days but the user pinkest, I thinks he dont use cheats, because he plays on server for a long time and never get vac and another thins is the pinkest get jumps presses 10 and bhops 5 and gets banned but the others guys who get banned and vac ban after always get jumps presses: 5 and bhops 5! I think its a false ban

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2020/04/25 17:05:26 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pinkest260" | SteamID: STEAM_1:0:540616998 | IP: 109.49.7.193} was detected and banned for Bhop (Jumps Presses: 10 | Bhops: 5).
	Pos={2187,2780,153}, Angles={1.60228,147.48187,0.00000}, Map="de_inferno", Team={2}, Weapon="weapon_ak47", Latency={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.034022}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={215.242187 seconds}, GameTime={260.007812 seconds}

2020/04/23 23:13:46 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "" | SteamID: STEAM_1:0:544536969 | IP: 217.129.80.254} was detected and banned for Bhop (Jumps Presses: 5 | Bhops: 5).
	Pos={-842,-191,-168}, Angles={21.29508,-104.63416,0.00000}, Map="de_mirage", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_knife", Latency={Inc:0.001198,Out:0.039869}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={600.125000 seconds}, GameTime={1092.179687 seconds}
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Old 04-26-2020 , 09:43   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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I thought it would detect wallhack because of the Eye angle! And I think I had a false ban for bhop like!

This two bans are true bans, because the account get vac banned after 2 days but the user pinkest, I thinks he dont use cheats, because he plays on server for a long time and never get vac and another thins is the pinkest get jumps presses 10 and bhops 5 and gets banned but the others guys who get banned and vac ban after always get jumps presses: 5 and bhops 5! I think its a false ban

Code:
2020/04/25 17:05:26 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "pinkest260" | SteamID: STEAM_1:0:540616998 | IP: 109.49.7.193} was detected and banned for Bhop (Jumps Presses: 10 | Bhops: 5).
	Pos={2187,2780,153}, Angles={1.60228,147.48187,0.00000}, Map="de_inferno", Team={2}, Weapon="weapon_ak47", Latency={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.034022}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={215.242187 seconds}, GameTime={260.007812 seconds}

2020/04/23 23:13:46 [Version 1.0.0] {Name: "" | SteamID: STEAM_1:0:544536969 | IP: 217.129.80.254} was detected and banned for Bhop (Jumps Presses: 5 | Bhops: 5).
	Pos={-842,-191,-168}, Angles={21.29508,-104.63416,0.00000}, Map="de_mirage", Team={3}, Weapon="weapon_knife", Latency={Inc:0.001198,Out:0.039869}, Loss={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, Choke={Inc:0.000000,Out:0.000000}, ConnectionTime={600.125000 seconds}, GameTime={1092.179687 seconds}
Sorry to say, but I don't think pinkest is legit.
Back when I used to run Lilac on my own servers (when Little Anti-Cheat was private), I would get tons of cheaters who would get banned for bhop with those exact numbers.
A lot of cheats actually jump twice for Bhop in order to bypass SMAC (even if it isn't installed, it may be hardcoded).
Let me explain:

You see, SMAC also detects the usage of Bhop.
But, cheat developers figured out that SMAC resets your bhop detection counter if you press jump while in the air.
Because of this, a lot of cheats - even to this day - will jump twice when bhopping.
Once when they touch the ground, and once while being in the air to bypass SMAC.

So, I'm sorry to say, but I've seen countless cheaters for nearly two years on my servers who got banned with those exact numbers.
I don't think he is legit... It's a valid cheat detection and ban.

As for VAC...
VAC bans are delayed, and can be delayed for months.
But VAC doesn't detect all cheats either, there are some private cheats which never get detected.
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Old 04-26-2020 , 10:16   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Sorry to say, but I don't think pinkest is legit.
Back when I used to run Lilac on my own servers (when Little Anti-Cheat was private), I would get tons of cheaters who would get banned for bhop with those exact numbers.
A lot of cheats actually jump twice for Bhop in order to bypass SMAC (even if it isn't installed, it may be hardcoded).
Let me explain:

You see, SMAC also detects the usage of Bhop.
But, cheat developers figured out that SMAC resets your bhop detection counter if you press jump while in the air.
Because of this, a lot of cheats - even to this day - will jump twice when bhopping.
Once when they touch the ground, and once while being in the air to bypass SMAC.

So, I'm sorry to say, but I've seen countless cheaters for nearly two years on my servers who got banned with those exact numbers.
I don't think he is legit... It's a valid cheat detection and ban.

As for VAC...
VAC bans are delayed, and can be delayed for months.
But VAC doesn't detect all cheats either, there are some private cheats which never get detected.

Thanks bro, you are incredible with your support! I will not unban him, but I just ask because the other players who get banned get 5 on 5 and this one get 10 one 5 so I thouth it could be a false ban
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Old 04-27-2020 , 02:54   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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That would be awesome! Thanks. Just curious, how much live play-testing have you done with this plugin?
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will this work on csgo?

also, i have cs:source server with sm 1.9 (because of some old plugins that dont work with sm 1.10), can you make this plugin work on sm 1.9 ?

thank you.
Version 1.2.0 is done and it should compile and run for SM version 1.9 (and older version hopefully).
You can find it at: https://github.com/J-Tanzanite/Little-Anti-Cheat
(I will update Lilac on this forum after a few days of knowing if version 1.2.0 is stable, gotta be sure).

Note, the lilac.smx file is version 1.0.0 (Stable build).
lilac.sp is version 1.2.0, and is the one you need to compile.

Hopefully, this should work for you two.



As for if this will work for CS:GO.
Yes, I only semi-support CS:GO, but it should in theory work fine.
I have started to notice that some CS:GO servers do use Lilac, and it seems to be going fine.

As for CS:S... I have no clue, it should be fine in theory, but the only way to know for sure is for someone to test it and report back.



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Thanks bro, you are incredible with your support! I will not unban him, but I just ask because the other players who get banned get 5 on 5 and this one get 10 one 5 so I thouth it could be a false ban
Thank you
It's understandable that you would find that ban somewhat questionable.

Questions regarding Lilac and if bans are valid are always fine, even if I may take some time to respond.
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Old 04-27-2020 , 08:25   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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is it going to show bans on sourcebans web page?
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Old 04-27-2020 , 08:30   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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is it going to show bans on sourcebans web page?
I think that depends on how you configure sourcebans.
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Old 04-27-2020 , 09:07   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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(I will update Lilac on this forum after a few days of knowing if version 1.2.0 is stable, gotta be sure).

Note, the lilac.smx file is version 1.0.0 (Stable build).
lilac.sp is version 1.2.0, and is the one you need to compile.
Whats the new version has new? Can you describe what are the changes? I really like your plugin and you make a great job!
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Old 04-27-2020 , 09:36   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Whats the new version has new? Can you describe what are the changes? I really like your plugin and you make a great job!
Here's a list of the changes so far:
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Version 1.2.0
- Added new ConVar "lilac_ban" (Default 1), set to 0 to disable all banning (useful for those who want to test Lilac before fully trusting it).
- Updated code syntax so older versions of sourcemod can compile and run Lilac.
- Updated ConVar updates to be cleaner, thanks MAGNAT2645!
- Updated ConVar checker to not kick unresponsive clients so quickly.

Version 1.1.0
- Added new forward for blocking cheat detections (Should be used by bhop/VIP plugins).
- Fixed some false positives for Aimlock detections (Hopefully, still not sure what caused issues for some others).
- Fixed aimlock lightweight mode testing 6 players, not 5 (Typos are fun :'D).
- Updated backtrack patch to last 1 second instead of 5 (Laggy players should not get punished so harshly now).
Again, I will publish the latest version on this forum once I get some feedback from some friends.
Just so I know it's stable and working fine.
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Old 04-27-2020 , 10:50   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Compiled fine. I've got it running on my servers. So far so good.
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Old 04-27-2020 , 11:37   Re: [ANY] Little Anti-Cheat
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Here's a list of the changes so far:


Again, I will publish the latest version on this forum once I get some feedback from some friends.
Just so I know it's stable and working fine.

Running on my server and until now so far so god
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