[Chrisber]

Hey,
I've read through the forums and read that SourceMod and SourceMM still uses gcc-4.1 (and so g++-4.1).
So I've installed them. Info: I'm using Debian Lenny.

Are this versions the correct ones?

chris@debian:~$ gcc-4.1 --version
gcc-4.1 (GCC) 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)

chris@debian:~$ g++-4.1 --version
g++-4.1 (GCC) 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)

Now I looked up and saw this:

chris@debian:~$ /lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library stable release version 2.7, by Roland McGrath et al.
Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 4.3.2.
Compiled on a Linux >>2.6.26-2-amd64<< system on 2010-10-21.
Available extensions:
    crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others
    GNU Libidn by Simon Josefsson
    Native POSIX Threads Library by Ulrich Drepper et al
    BIND-8.2.3-T5B

You see, it's compiled with 4.3.2.

Questions:

1. How can I compile a glibc with gcc-4.1 and g++-4.1?
2. How can I set up gcc-4.1 and g++-4.1 to be the standard compilers? (so that I can use "gcc" and "g++" simply?)
3. Is it ok to use the std::-libs from the compiler or should I use those from SourceMM?
4. Would you recommend me to switch to another linux system? For better compability?

Thanks!

[asherkin]

Your environment will be fine.
For reference, here's what I use:

[root@fennec ~]# g++ --version
g++ (GCC) 4.4.5 20101112 (Red Hat 4.4.5-2)
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[root@fennec ~]# gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 4.4.5 20101112 (Red Hat 4.4.5-2)
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[root@fennec ~]# /lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library stable release version 2.12.1, by Roland McGrath et al.
Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 4.4.4 20100630 (Red Hat 4.4.4-10).
Compiled on a Linux 2.6.34 system on 2010-10-22.
Available extensions:
        The C stubs add-on version 2.1.2.
        crypt add-on version 2.1 by Michael Glad and others
        GNU Libidn by Simon Josefsson
        Native POSIX Threads Library by Ulrich Drepper et al
        BIND-8.2.3-T5B
        RT using linux kernel aio
libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC
For bug reporting instructions, please see:
<http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.

As far as libstdc++, never use it, use the classes included in MM:S / HL2SDK.

[Chrisber]

Yeah, but I ever thought that with a low gcc version you can provide much better compability? Or is that wrong?

And if I use gcc-4.1, I should also use a glibc which is compiled with gcc-4.1. I don't want to compile a plugin that only works on 20% of all servers :/

Thanks!

[asherkin]

No server has ever had a problem with anything I've compiled, so meh.

[BAILOPAN]

For distributing Linux binaries, we use gcc-4.1 because it's the lowest common denominator that any Valve game ships with. We can build everything on one slave. We also want to avoid linking to later libc versions, so we use Debian 4 or something (it could be 5 - I forget). Linux DLL hell sucks.

[voogru]

Originally Posted by BAILOPAN For distributing Linux binaries, we use gcc-4.1 because it's the lowest common denominator that any Valve game ships with. We can build everything on one slave. We also want to avoid linking to later libc versions, so we use Debian 4 or something (it could be 5 - I forget). Linux DLL hell sucks.

Linux has DLLs?

News to me.

[Chrisber]

Of course. Wine!

[Thrawn2]

wine makes my head hurt