[ConnorMcLeod]

Originally Posted by Exolent[jNr] Are you saying that you tested and they don't work, or you see an error in the code?

Just saying that you can't convert it this way, pdata will return some kind of pointers that you can't use.
You can convert cs_set_hostage_follow another way by making players use hostages (fake CT team if T...), and i think you can convert cs_get_hostage_follow by hooking each time a user uses one oO

[stupok]

I know that people request this kind of conversion a lot, but I don't see how this is better than just using the functions in the cstrike module. Am I missing something? Is there some benefit?

[danielkza]

Originally Posted by stupok I know that people request this kind of conversion a lot, but I don't see how this is better than just using the functions in the cstrike module. Am I missing something? Is there some benefit?

The only point I see in that is if your plugin uses, like, 2 functions from the cstrike module. It's better to replace them with fakemeta equivalents, than to possibly force AMXX to load an extra module.

But in most cases that won't matter since at least 1 plugin will need to use it anyway.

[vittu]

Originally Posted by danielkza The only point I see in that is if your plugin uses, like, 2 functions from the cstrike module. It's better to replace them with fakemeta equivalents, than to possibly force AMXX to load an extra module. But in most cases that won't matter since at least 1 plugin will need to use it anyway.

Not to mention most servers will be running the module anyway because they want the extra stats plugins in the cstrike addon. That's the main reason I don't remove cstrike. Besides I would think a few of the natives/forwards from csx/cstrike would be faster in module than written out in plugin/include.

Some people just got on some crazy fakemeta high and thought everything needed to be converted to it to use less modules because they were told doing so was optimizing. Not specifically talking about this thread or anyone who has posted in this thread.

[joaquimandrade]

Originally Posted by vittu Not to mention most servers will be running the module anyway because they want the extra stats plugins in the cstrike addon. That's the main reason I don't remove cstrike. Besides I would think a few of the natives/forwards from csx/cstrike would be faster in module than written out in plugin/include. Some people just got on some crazy fakemeta high and thought everything needed to be converted to it to use less modules because they were told doing so was optimizing. Not specifically talking about this thread or anyone who has posted in this thread.

But a plugin with fakemeta only is more cross-mod compatible than if it also had the cstrike module, isn't it?

[vittu]

Originally Posted by joaquimandrade But a plugin with fakemeta only is more cross-mod compatible than if it also had the cstrike module, isn't it?

I don't see how when the code is still mod dependent?

[joaquimandrade]

Originally Posted by vittu I don't see how when the code is still mod dependent?

I have a plugin where i have to deal with the user's money. If i use cs_set_money, it can't be used in a mod other than counter strike. Is that correct?

[vittu]

Originally Posted by joaquimandrade I have a plugin where i have to deal with the user's money. If i use cs_set_money, it can't be used in a mod other than counter strike. Is that correct?

But even converting cs_set_user_money it is still mod dependent. What I mean is even if you convert the code you still can't run it in the other mod, so how would that be making it cross-mod compatible? (maybe I'm misreading this because I'm tired or maybe someone can make clear what I'm trying to say, I will check on this again tomorrow).

[joaquimandrade]

Originally Posted by vittu But even converting cs_set_user_money it is still mod dependent. What I mean is even if you convert the code you still can't run it in the other mod, so how would that be making it cross-mod compatible? (maybe I'm misreading this because I'm tired or maybe someone can make clear what I'm trying to say, I will check on this again tomorrow).

Even if its not fully cross-mod, its still more cross-mod than with cstrike. It is simple as this: my plugin of video poker is running on a TS server. If i had used cs_get_money it wouldn't be.

I don't think that using fakemeta is just a trend like you said. Even being overused, it has obviously good uses.

[stupok]

So The Specialists has the same offset for money as Counter-Strike?

It (probably) doesn't, and that's what vittu is getting at. Each mod has its own offsets and little intricacies. Using fakemeta isn't making anything more compatible.

I suppose you could argue that with fakemeta, you would only have to change a few #defines that declare the offsets, where if you use cs_get_user_money, you would have to do a "replace all" with ts_getusercash. Further, maybe some mods don't have a function, so you would need to use fakemeta.

That's a negligible benefit, in my opinion.

I think a trend is exactly what it is.