[Faith4Dead]

I'm having an issue regarding level change in Left 4 Dead 2, the spawns seem to break or are messed up completely, On map 2 of dead center everyone spawns outside of the safe room in the air dying from fall damage but on every other map everyone is spawning out of bounds in the void, the only fix for this that I have figured out so far is by having everyone die, the map reloads but then another issue pops up, the safe rooms are completely empty having no ammo piles, kits or weapons.

I'm rather confused on why this has happened and I've searched for answers online but have found none, does anyone know of anyway to solve this issue?

[Psyk0tik]

It sounds as though you have some plugins (or extensions) installed that are causing these issues. Even with my modded dedicated server, I haven't encountered any similar issues, both before and after the Last Stand update.

Would you mind posting the outputs for the following commands? Doing so will allow people to better help you narrow down the cause for these issues.

meta version
sm version
sm exts list
sm plugins list

[Faith4Dead]

Originally Posted by Crasher_3637 Stuff

Here are the outputs.

I probably have plugins conflicting or something but I'm unsure.


Metamod:Source Version Information
Metamod:Source version 1.11.0-dev+1143
Plugin interface version: 16:14
SourceHook version: 5:5
Loaded As: Valve Server Plugin
Compiled on: Aug 25 2020 06:51:26
Built from: https://github.com/alliedmodders/met...commit/b8d1fd4
Build ID: 1143:b8d1fd4


SourceMod 1.10.0.6499, by AlliedModders LLC
To see running plugins, type "sm plugins"
To see credits, type "sm credits"
Visit http://www.sourcemod.net/


"Automatic Updater" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC: Updates SourceMod gamedata files
"Webternet" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC: Extension for interacting with URLs
"SDK Tools" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC: Source SDK Tools
"BinTools" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC: Low-level C/C++ Calling API
"Top Menus" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders: Creates sorted nested menus
"Client Preferences" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders: Saves client preference settings
"SQLite" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC: SQLite Driver
"SDK Hooks" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC: Source SDK Hooks
"DHooks" (2.2.0-detours15) by Dr!fter: Dynamic Hooks


"RPG Mode" (1.2.0) by Bone Rattler
"Automatic Campaign Switcher (ACS)" (v2.3.0) by Rikka0w0, Chris Pringle
"Admin File Reader" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Admin Help" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Admin Menu" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Anti-Flood" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Basic Ban Commands" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Basic Chat" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Basic Comm Control" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Basic Commands" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Basic Info Triggers" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Basic Votes" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"[L4D, L4D2] No Death Check Until Dead" (1.5.6) by chinagreenelvis
"Client Preferences" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"[L4D2] Defib Death Model" (1.1.2) by Shadowysn
"[L4D2]Defib_Ragdolls" (1.2.2) by Lux
"EnhancedThrowables" (1.3) by Timocop, Lux
"Fun Commands" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Fun Votes" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"[L4D & L4D2] Item Giver" (1.4) by Psyk0tik (Crasher_3637)
"[L4D 1&2] NeedToHave" (1.4.1) by Danny
"[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike" (1.7) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike - Dead Air" (1.3-da) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike - No Mercy" (1.3-nm) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike - Triggers" (1.3-tr) by SilverShot
"l4d2_changelevel" (1.2.0) by Lux
"[L4D2] Custom admin commands" (1.3.7) by honorcode23, Shadowysn (improvements)
"[L4D2] Weapon Drop" (1.6) by Machine, dcx2, Electr000999 /z, Senip, Shao
"[L4D2] Fireworks Party" (1.10) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Flare Gun" (2.13) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Footlocker" (1.16) by SilverShot
"L4D2 Gun Control" (1.1.3) by AtomicStryker
"[L4D2] Incapped Crawling with Animation" (2.7) by SilverShot, mod by Lux
"L4D2 Keep Lasers" (1.2) by dcx2 (assist: Mr. Zero)
"[L4D2] Laser Box Spawner" (1.4) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Melee Weapon Spawner" (1.5) by SilverShot
"L4D2 Mission Manager" (v1.0.0) by Rikka0w0
"L4D2 MissionManager AdminMenu" (v1.0.0) by Rikka0w0
"[L4D2] Player Join Messages" (1.0.1) by Dirka_Dirka
"Points System" (1.8.0) by McFlurry & evilmaniac
"[L4D2] Pour Gas" (1.12) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Scavenge Score Fix - Gascan Pouring" (1.3) by SilverShot
"L4D2 Spawn Uncommons" (1.0.9) by AtomicStryker
"[L4D2] Upgrade Pack Spawner" (1.4) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Vomitjar Shove" (1.8) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Weapon/Zombie Spawner" (1.0a) by Zuko & McFlurry
"[L4D2] Weapon/Zombie Spawner" (1.0a) by Zuko & McFlurry
"L4D2_WorldModel_Turnrate" (1.0) by Lux
"[L4D2] Weapons Skins RNG" (1.0.5) by Mart
"[L4D2] Zoey Unlock" (1.2) by SilverShot
"[L4D/L4D2] Character Select Menu" (2.5b) by MI 5
"[L4D2] Ammo Pile Spawner" (1.7) by SilverShot
"climb everywhere" (1.02) by Pan Xiaohai
"[L4D1 AND L4D2] Cloud Damage" (2.22) by AtomicStryker
"[L4D & L4D2] Coop Markers - Flow Distance" (1.8) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Dynamic Muzzle Flash" (1.0) by SilverShot, sereky
"[L4D & L4D2] Fire Glow" (1.6) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Gear Transfer" (2.12) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Prototype Grenades" (1.31) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Gun Cabinet" (1.5) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Hats" (1.24) by SilverShot
"[L4D/2] Incapped Pickup Items" (1.3.0) by xZk
"[L4D & L4D2] Incapped Shove" (1.9) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Incapped Shove" (1.9) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Incapped Weapons Patch" (1.10) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Infected Glow" (1.9) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Mission and Weapons - Info Editor" (1.12) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Lock Doors" (1.3) by SilverShot
"Machine" (1.07) by Pan Xiaohai
"[L4D & L4D2] Mini Gun Flamethrowers" (1.5) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Molotov Shove" (1.8) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Pipebomb Shove" (1.10) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Reload Interrupt" (1.4) by SilverShot
"[L4D/L4D2] Thirdpersonshoulder Shotgun Sound Fix" (1.1) by MasterMind420, Lux
"superBoss" (1.0.1) by Pan Xiaohai
"[L4D & L4D2] Swimming" (1.8) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Teammate Flashlight" (1.0) by SilverShot, sereky
"Tougher Survivor Bots" (1.3) by xQd
"[L4D & L4D2] Weapon Crate" (1.7) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Weapon Spawn" (1.6) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Left 4 DHooks Direct" (1.29) by SilverShot
"Wrong Voice Owner Fix" (1) by bullet28
"LMCCore" (3.1.0) by Lux
"LMCEDeathHandler" (1.1.4) by Lux
"LMCL4D2CDeathHandler" (1.1.6) by Lux
"LMCL4D2SetTransmit" (1.0.3) by Lux
"LMC_L4D2_Menu_Choosing" (1.1.0) by Lux
"LMC_L4D2_RandomSpawns" (1.0.1) by Lux
"LMCSharedCvars" (1.0.1) by Lux
"[L4D2] Lockdown System" (1.7) by cravenge
"No Friendly-fire" (7.5) by Psykotik (Crasher_3637)
"Player Commands" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"[PS] Buy Extended Support Structure" (2.0.0) by McFlurry && evilmaniac
"Reserved Slots" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"Scene Processor" (1.0.1) by Buster "Mr. Zero" Nielsen
"Scuffle" (0.0.18) by Lux & Victor "NgBUCKWANGS" Gonzalez
"Sound Commands" (1.10.0.6499) by AlliedModders LLC
"[L4D1 AND L4D2] Super Tanks" (1.4.0) by Machine, Modified By Ernecio
"[L4D1 AND L4D2] Survivor Respawn" (2.1) by Mortiegama And Ernecio (Satanael)
"[L4D2]Survivor_AFK_Fix" (1.0.4) by Lux
"ThirdPersonShoulder_Detect" (1.5.3) by MasterMind420 & Lux
"WeaponHandling" (1.0.4) by Lux
"L4D2 Melee Weapon Grunts" (1.1) by DeathChaos25
"[L4D2]Survivor_Legs_Restore" (1.5.2) by Lux

[Marttt]

I had a similar issue in the past, I don't remember if it was a plugin, gamedata or extension installed.

If you can reproduce always this bug the best you can do is by trial and error.

Try removing half of the plugins and test if it happens again, than repeat the process until you find it.
You can also try to remove the extensions if no plugin is the cause of this behavior.

[HarryPotter]

I have encountered this issue several times before, I found that it was because there are too many weapons, melees, upgrade packs, mini Guns, footlockers and items in saferoom zone, they are all spawned by the following plugins.

PHP Code:

"[L4D & L4D2] Weapon Crate" (1.7) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Weapon Spawn" (1.6) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Laser Box Spawner" (1.4) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Melee Weapon Spawner" (1.5) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Upgrade Pack Spawner" (1.4) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Ammo Pile Spawner" (1.7) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Mini Gun Flamethrowers" (1.5) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Flare Gun" (2.13) by SilverShot
"[L4D2] Footlocker" (1.16) by SilverShot 


When this bug happens, all survivor bots, ammo piles, kits or weapons in saferoom zone are teleported to the center of the map (position: 0 0 0)....
the safe room are completely empty.

One of my solution is to remove all, don't spawn any in ending safe room zone.
Or return all survivors back to saferoom.

Edit: I notice that you have duplicate plugins

PHP Code:

"[L4D2] Weapon/Zombie Spawner" (1.0a) by Zuko & McFlurry
"[L4D2] Weapon/Zombie Spawner" (1.0a) by Zuko & McFlurry

"[L4D & L4D2] Incapped Shove" (1.9) by SilverShot
"[L4D & L4D2] Incapped Shove" (1.9) by SilverShot 


Better check and delete.

[Faith4Dead]

Originally Posted by HarryPotter Stuff

Really? I'll see about removing the item spawning plugins, only got them due to the saferooms being empty so I just saved ammo piles and weapons to compensate for it.

[Faith4Dead]

Originally Posted by HarryPotter Stuff

I removed all the weapon spawning plugins, sadly the issue seems to persist, I'll keep trying something to figure this out, thanks for your help tho.

[GsiX]

hi,
I just want to red dot this, don't mind me.
Similar problem but mine have no plugins at all except the sm core.

[Faith4Dead]

I've solved my issue, it seems Death Check was causing this problem, I'm unsure why but maybe something in the code of it was spawning stuff all wrong?

Thanks to everyone for doing their best to help.

[Dragokas]

Death Check doesn't do anything related to entities with exception of this solution to execute "scenario_end" command in the latest v.1.5.6. you are using.
I bet it could cause strange results. Not totally sure. Previously I experimented with similar random stuff and observed strange things.

Try this earlier version of Death Check (looks like, somewhere already modified by me).
I never had any problems with this one.