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Old 01-01-2014 , 12:22   Block hats/misc items from being modified
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So I kinda figured out that you can modify hats and misc. items with the tf2.weapons.txt file.

Doing so, I modified one of my Engineer hats to change the quality to Unusual and added a particle effect. Other players could still see the hat, and upon inspection, saw it as Unusual and having a particle effect.

This led me to wonder "Why doesn't the extension just block the IDs of hats/misc items from being changed? Restrict it to weapon IDs only.". I know similar issues have happened in the past with the Equipment Manager plugin, and I don't want to see TF2Items become completely broken by Valve, so I figured I'd submit this thread and see where it goes.
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Old 01-01-2014 , 13:48   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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People will just download the extension and recompile it without the checks, it's useless to try to block it. Imo Valve should just get over it, hats and weapons edited that way have no real "value" (read: can't be traded for $$$) and are limited to the servers they're on... I personally don't see the problem in this.
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Old 01-01-2014 , 18:57   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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People will just download the extension and recompile it without the checks, it's useless to try to block it. Imo Valve should just get over it, hats and weapons edited that way have no real "value" (read: can't be traded for $$$) and are limited to the servers they're on... I personally don't see the problem in this.
Plus adding checks would have to go in extension's level and not the manager's level because players would get around plugin's check by making a plugin and adding the checks in extension's level would break the plugin called: Local Item Server
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Old 01-01-2014 , 19:12   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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I personally don't see the problem in this.
Wait, don't you run a server that used to sell the ability to use custom player models created by other people for like $5 a piece, which created a huge uproar among the creators of those models because you were making money off their hard work?

Also, the suggestion of mine has basically been labelled as invalid by the recent posts indicating issues with this, so yeah. Thread's basically over now.
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Old 01-01-2014 , 19:58   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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Wait, don't you run a server that used to sell the ability to use custom player models created by other people for like $5 a piece, which created a huge uproar among the creators of those models because you were making money off their hard work?

Also, the suggestion of mine has basically been labelled as invalid by the recent posts indicating issues with this, so yeah. Thread's basically over now.
You talking about my reply right.
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Old 01-01-2014 , 20:23   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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You talking about my reply right.
Mhm
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Old 01-02-2014 , 01:59   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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Sometimes if you want to make something fun for your community, it's best to do do it yourself.
It's against the spirit of open source, but such is life.
Just be thankful that there are people like askerkin/sarge that created public tools for interfacing with items.
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Old 01-09-2014 , 11:46   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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Sometimes if you want to make something fun for your community, it's best to do do it yourself.
It's against the spirit of open source, but such is life.
Just be thankful that there are people like askerkin/sarge that created public tools for interfacing with items.
I'm thankful to asherkin/sarge
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Old 01-26-2014 , 04:37   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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If this happens, people would just pm people for backups of old versions until a Valve update releases were old version aren't supported.

That, and people will probably recompile it if they know how.

Or it could be heavily obfuscated.
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Old 03-20-2014 , 14:30   Re: Block hats/misc items from being modified
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