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Old 11-16-2009 , 07:11   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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Old 11-16-2009 , 07:57   Your Favorite Scripter?
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Old 11-16-2009 , 08:10   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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Old 11-16-2009 , 08:37   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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Old 11-16-2009 , 08:54   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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My favorite coder will be the one who will create a totally new, original , refreshing, and fully developped plugin or mod, well-coded with comments, so complete and intelligently coded that I could add/alter/remove features easily without modify the plugin itself, so such plugin/mod which will pull up the coders to a next level, something like that I could install right away.
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Old 11-16-2009 , 08:55   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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My favorite coder will be the one who will create a totally new, original , refreshing, and fully developped plugin or mod, well-coded with comments, so complete and intelligently coded that I could add/alter/remove features easily without modify the plugin itself, so such plugin/mod which will pull up the coders to a next level, something like that I could install right away.
Apollo RP. It doesn't have the commenting, but it has everything else.
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Old 11-16-2009 , 08:56   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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ask way too xD!
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Old 11-16-2009 , 09:23   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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Apollo RP. It doesn't have the commenting, but it has everything else.
I'm not complete in my post. I will edit it.
For sure there are some interesting stuffs but I don't think it's complete :
- No ML, thanks for servers which have players from different country.
Just that, I would need to edit myself the plugin, so it fails already.

I could add :
- No commenting, good luck to review such big plugin.
- Documentation not complete ; I'm not used of such gameplay. I could say I'm totally new and I see no documentations which explains exactly what it does, what's the RP, how to use etc. I see only how to configure. So for the beginner, good luck to understand. Since I don't see any useful docs I don't feel like to test it.
Since I have not tested yet, I can't say if it's easy-to-use and if you it's a nice gameplay. For sure there is a full API it seems. About "which will pull up the coders to a next level" ; in what ? By looking at your first post in the plugin thread, it looks boring. You should try to give more informations. Also since march you don't answer to this thread, it looks like abandoned. It sounds like a lot of work but it would need to rework on some points to get more players to try it. So that's not something I would install right away but it's a nice attempt, there are not much people who are able to do such big mods.
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Old 11-16-2009 , 09:39   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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ask way too xD!
lol !
Why ? All plugins should be like that. There are sometimes nice attempts but about one or two of the listed things, but no plugins which gather all.
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Old 11-16-2009 , 09:50   Re: Your Favorite Scripter?
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I'm not complete in my post. I will edit it.
For sure there are some interesting stuffs but I don't think it's complete :
- No ML, thanks for servers which have players from different country.

There is no one who I know of who wants to use ML. The community around it is very small and entirely English-speaking as far as I know.

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I could add :
- No commenting, good luck to review such big plugin.
I don't think it's that big, but as a plugin I suppose it is. You shouldn't need to understand the core to use it, anyway. The API has plenty of comments and example code.

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- Documentation not complete ; I'm not used of such gameplay. I could say I'm totally new and I see no documentations which explains exactly what it does, what's the RP, how to use etc. I see only how to configure. So for the beginner, good luck to understand. Since I don't see any useful docs I don't feel like to test it.
It was originally designed for people who knew exactly what they wanted. It never really occurred to me that I should actually explain at all what it's for as no one has ever asked me.

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Since I have not tested yet, I can't say if it's easy-to-use and if you it's a nice gameplay.
Well, I think that's one of its biggest strengths.

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For sure there is a full API it seems. About "which will pull up the coders to a next level" ; in what ?
There's a few interesting concepts that I used for it. The first is a keytable which saves itself dynamically to SQL for you. Here's an example of this in action:

PHP Code:
#include <amxmodx>
#include <amxmisc>
#include <ApolloRP>

new Class:g_Class
new Float:g_LastTime

public ARP_Init()
{
   
ARP_RegisterPlugin("Data Layer Test","1.0","Hawk552","Tests the data layer")

   
ARP_ClassLoad("server_settings","ClassLoadHandle","")
}

public 
ClassLoadHandle(Class:class_id,const class[],data[])
{
   
g_Class class_id
   
   ARP_ClassSaveHook
(class_id,"ClassSaveHandle","")
   
   
ARP_ClassGetFloat(class_id,"lasttime",g_LastTime)
}

public 
ClassSaveHandle(Class:ClassId,Name[],Data[])
   
ARP_ClassSetFloat(ClassId,"lasttime",float(get_systime()))

public 
plugin_end()
   if(
g_ClassARP_ClassSave(g_Class,1
Another interesting concept I threw in is "clever querying", which is an engine that automatically decides whether to thread or not thread an SQL query. I wrote a wrapper around the non-threaded query process to make it act like the threaded process. This was written because ARP was maxing out the amount of threaded queries that could be sent without stalling the server, so I had to prioritize some of them. It mostly gets used at the end of the map, when there's no players, etc.

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You should try to give more informations.
Yeah, I'll do that. I recently ported it so that it'll work on any mod, so I suppose it'll be more important now that it can be understood what it does.

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Also since march you don't answer to this thread, it looks like abandoned.
Huh? There's like 10 new posts every day, a couple of them mine. I don't know what you're talking about.

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It sounds like a lot of work but it would need to rework on some points to get more players to try it. So that's not something I would install right away.
Well, the entire point of it originally was to be expansive. You can throw away all of the addon plugins and just use the core alone.
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