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DreamState
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Old 10-25-2009 , 08:49   Random crashes
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Hi,

I'm having random server crashes using Zombie:Reloaded - I'm not sure it is necessarily the Zombie:Reloaded plugin itself but possibly something is intefering with the Zombie setup that doesn't effect my other servers.

We have 9 servers that all use SourceMod and most have a common set of mods. Everynow and again the ZM server seems to crash - often at least once daily - usually when at its busiest - but despite looking, I just can't put my finger on the cause. I've checked the main source logs, sourcemod logs, and I added the -debug option to the startup options - unless I am looking in the wrong place (and I may be!), none of these give any information about what caused the crash.

I was hoping somebody might be able to tell me where I should be looking to diagnose crashes like this. I've listed the SM plugins we use below - any of those look like potential problems? I've not noticed anything whilst playing that I thought could trigger it. Seems to happen *more* on mines of moria but that is not always. Probably, just that map gets voted in a lot more. May happen on map changes more often, but again not always afaik.

Linux-based dedicated server.

Server: 81.19.209.200:27110 @ TWKgaming.com CSS#6 | Zombie:Reloaded ESCAPE! [HLSTATSCE]

01 "Players Votes" (1.3.2) by pZv!, The Resident
02 "High Ping Kicker - Lite Edition" (1.0.0.1) by Liam
03 "Basic Votes" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
04 "Zombie:Reloaded" (3.0.0-b1) by Greyscale | Richard Helgeby
05 "HLstatsX CE Ingame Plugin" (1.6.1) by psychonic
06 "Spray Tracer" (5.7) by Nican132, CptMoore, Lebson506th
07 "Map Nominations" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
08 "NoBlock" (1.1.1) by Otstrel.ru Team
09 "HP Left" (1.2.1) by InterWave Studios team
10 "Basic Commands" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
11 "Player Commands" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
12 "Admin Help" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
13 "Fun Votes" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
14 "Reserved Slots" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
15 "Welcome Sound" (0.0.1) by R-Hehl
16 "Admin File Reader" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
17 "SM Super Commands" (0.51) by pRED*
18 "Advertisements from Database" (1.2.100) by Tsunami and <eVa>Dog
19 "Player Rename" (1.6.000) by <eVa>Dog
20 "Fun Commands" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
21 "Tag Protection" (1.21) by InstantDeath
22 "Anti-Flood" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
23 "Admin Menu" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
24 "Basic Chat" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
25 "Client Preferences" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
26 "Spray Pruning" (1.0.0.1) by sslice
27 "Nextmap" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
28 "Comms Tools" (1.6.000) by <eVa>Dog/AlliedModders LLC
29 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
30 "Sound Commands" (1.2.3) by AlliedModders LLC
31 "Ammo Script for Zombie:Reloaded" (2.0) by [SG-10]Cpt.Moore, Richard Helgeby
32 "Plugin Manager" (1.1.0) by R-Hehl
33 "Unconnected detection" (0.0.1.0) by devicenull
34 "SourceBans" (1.4.5) by InterWave Studios Development Team
35 "MapChooser" (1.2.0) by AlliedModders LLC
36 "SuperLogs: CSS" (1.0) by psychonic

Any help would be very appreciated.

This is the last issue with an otherwise kick-ass mod and server
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Old 10-25-2009 , 13:10   Re: Random crashes
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Blah. Linux. There goes the dump files. The easiest thing, yet most time consuming, is to start knocking a plugin off one by one until it doesn't crash anymore >.>
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Old 10-25-2009 , 15:25   Re: Random crashes
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It might be caused by ZRTools Extension. There's no fix available.

We run this plugin on linux too, but we don't have any big trouble with it.
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Old 10-26-2009 , 21:31   Re: Random crashes
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What extensions are you running?

Using ES_Tools?

We are most likely going to switch over to a more dependable extension. The fact is neither of us know enough about C++ to program a stable extension. I tried, but I don't think there is anything I can do to fix the extension as far as my knowledge of C++ goes.
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Old 10-28-2009 , 16:15   Re: Random crashes
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Hey,

Thanks for all the replies. Only reason for late reply is I've been testing a few things.

I've done a stock reinstall of metamod and sourcemod - no results yet but will post if any luck. Might be able to narrow down a plugin.

I run only metamod and sourcemod, no es or estools.
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Old 10-28-2009 , 19:27   Re: Random crashes
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Does it say anything about memory leaks in source mod error logs? We know that there are leaks in beta 1.

Otherwise I don't think that's causing the crash. It's most likely an extension I guess.
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Old 10-30-2009 , 08:22   Re: Random crashes
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Not found anything too useful in the sourcelogs tbh - usually the logs just sort of cut off - but we are using the public release (1.2.4) atm. I'll have another look shortly. It seems to happen at map end so I'm wondering if a problem with mapchooser (end of map votes) or nextmap?
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Old 10-30-2009 , 10:37   Re: Random crashes
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I doubt a plugin will cause the crash. Maybe it could be something broken when hooking/unhooking events since it's on map change.

Btw, do you loose players because of the crash? As mentioned other places in this forum we'll most likely switch to SDK Hooks extension, but that will be done after beta 2 is released.
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Old 10-31-2009 , 13:07   Re: Random crashes
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Update: Tested ZR (a beta 2 snapshot) on a vanilla server with newest SourceMod. It DOES crash when shutting down the server, but I don't know about mid-round crashes yet.

The crash on shut down is definitely caused by the ZR Tools extension. It's not critical because the server is shutting down anyways.
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Old 10-31-2009 , 15:44   Re: Random crashes
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I'm also experiencing random server crashes on my linux server. They happen few and far between, but still happen.
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