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goodman3
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Old 06-23-2018 , 20:58   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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Question answered many times in this thread while you keep insisting on things out of your knowledge.
With that attitude, no wonder why no one has tried that. Please refrain from replying this post. Now I know this isn't a place for discussion. All you get is personal insult because people think they're on the 'right' side.
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Old 06-24-2018 , 01:03   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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Don't judge the whole community based on a few comments by a few people.

It's extremely unlikely that anyone will give the answer you want because nobody has tried it since it's completely unrealistic that such a thing would even be playable.
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Old 06-24-2018 , 01:09   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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Don't judge the whole community based on a few comments by a few people.

It's extremely unlikely that anyone will give the answer you want because nobody has tried it since it's completely unrealistic that such a thing would even be playable.
OK, but I'm not begging for reply.
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Old 06-24-2018 , 05:28   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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Increasing the maximum player count would require at the very least these changes:
  • Increase size of clients list in the engine
  • Change engine code to send indices with more bits (client & server)
  • Change every line of code that references the maximum player count (patching code at runtime, client & server)
  • Redesign code that abuses the fact that the maximum player count is 32 to store booleans in integer (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/hal...ggers.cpp#L947)

So it's not possible with existing games & mods because you'd need to modify the code. Even if you could do it, you'd need to disable VAC so it would be a cheater's heaven, especially since there's already memory patching going on so adding your own cheats in would be a lot easier.
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Old 06-24-2018 , 07:03   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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Increasing the maximum player count would require at the very least these changes:
  • Increase size of clients list in the engine
  • Change engine code to send indices with more bits (client & server)
  • Change every line of code that references the maximum player count (patching code at runtime, client & server)
  • Redesign code that abuses the fact that the maximum player count is 32 to store booleans in integer (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/hal...ggers.cpp#L947)

So it's not possible with existing games & mods because you'd need to modify the code. Even if you could do it, you'd need to disable VAC so it would be a cheater's heaven, especially since there's already memory patching going on so adding your own cheats in would be a lot easier.
I know every sentence you said. I think the only solution is avoid that. Since 32 players is hard-coded, how about 2 servers run on same computer and exchange it's player location to another (through some IPC or sth). And those fake players rendered as npc/monsters. That doesn't violate 32 players rule at all. Like I said let's just assume network and hardware is really good here.

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Old 06-24-2018 , 23:49   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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how about 2 servers run on same computer and exchange it's player location to another (through some IPC or sth). And those fake players rendered as npc/monsters. That doesn't violate 32 players rule at all. Like I said let's just assume network and hardware is really good here.
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Old 06-25-2018 , 06:19   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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It's not possible with the current engine, every possibility has already been thought of over the years.
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Old 06-25-2018 , 09:58   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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It does still violate the 32 player rule, because you would still need to be #33. Even if all other players of your own team would be fake you still need to be real for the others. So this wold be at least 33. Then this would count for every other one as well multiplicating the number of fake players. You now understand?
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Old 06-25-2018 , 10:24   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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It does still violate the 32 player rule, because you would still need to be #33. Even if all other players of your own team would be fake you still need to be real for the others. So this wold be at least 33. Then this would count for every other one as well multiplicating the number of fake players. You now understand?
Why fake players count as 32 slot? If you are alone in one server and other 32 players in another. Then you will see 32 npc model and on other server there will be 32 real players and one fake model(you). And in this way both server are under 32 players. This time please focus on technical issues
and not some 'no one will do it' thing.
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Old 06-25-2018 , 10:57   Re: Is more than 32 players possible ?
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Why fake players count as 32 slot? If you are alone in one server and other 32 players in another. Then you will see 32 npc model and on other server there will be 32 real players and one fake model(you). And in this way both server are under 32 players. This time please focus on technical issues
and not some 'no one will do it' thing.
you are talking like you have the knowledge to do this, do you ?

if not, stop with this idea!
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