[Munra]

Originally Posted by BAILOPAN Munra: We are assuming clients will have the ability to create listen servers. We don't know if there will be dedicated servers - I sure hope so! Like everything with Valve, we'll play it by ear. There's no reason to assume anything from them will exist until it's in your hands.

I had a good convo with FlyingMongoose last night on IRC and your are both right, no telling what valve will do. I do think its great that they are porting it to mac.

[zeroibis]

I just hope that they do not break the game for us while trying to get it to work on mac...

While I understand that people would want dedicated server on mac support for testing it seems pointless b/c it is not as though you would actually rent a mac dedicated server to host your game in a datacenter. Unless it is somehow way more stable than srcds runs in winserver 05 and cost less than linux and the odds of that are virtually 0.

[karuru]

still waiting for the announcement of an linux client ;)

[AtomicStryker]

No, and i never understood the rage about it. Looks like Linux with one hell of a Price Tag to me.


*runs away*

[Chanz]

I see this somehow very critical.

It's always good to provide software platform independent, but on the other hand many users of this forum try to make their plugins etc. dependent.

The biggest example for this are the L4D tagged plugins. So many of them could work for more mods than just l4d or l4d2, but the developers of those plugins don't have time, don't have any other mod than l4d or are just too lazy to make their plugin platform/mod independent.

So do we see now threads like '[MAC][L4D3] Spawn weapons XYZ'?

[psychonic]

Originally Posted by Chanz The biggest example for this are the L4D tagged plugins. So many of them could work for more mods than just l4d or l4d2, but the developers of those plugins don't have time, don't have any other mod than l4d or are just too lazy to make their plugin platform/mod independent. So do we see now threads like '[MAC][L4D3] Spawn weapons XYZ'?

Mod-dependence and OS-dependence are completely different. For example, all approved plugins are OS-agnostic (the only semi-exception is ones that only include gamedata for a single OS, but the plugin itself will still run under any OS, provided the correct data is available).

There are many plugins written for single games that can work in other games with little/no edits, but that's not really relevant.

[zeroibis]

I think this sums up how people with mac will feel when valve releases this update: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8FnACj25xM

Also I think that the move to mac may be a signal that valve is looking toward opengl4 and not dx11 for future game releases.

[InflatableSoulmate]

A lot of people run hidden srcds servers on the corporate networks they administrate. Some of these networks may have Apple Xservs, and newer Xservs are pretty nice machines. Why wouldn't someone be interested in running srcds on a Mac, and if so, why wouldn't they have a high probability of wanting to be able to use SourceMod?

Obviously, it *could* be considered a waste of time, because GSPs aren't going to spend all that extra money just to get Apple servers, but is that really a reason not to support it?

[naris]

I don't use macs myself. However, since linux and Mac's OS/X are both unix derivatives, porting from linux to OS/X shouldn't be very difficult so you might as well "port" it...

[Crispy]

Yes, I have a Mac, and I'm looking forward to being able to play TF2 without having to boot into Windows. However, I just recently went on a OMG gotta have it buying spree, and spent a small fortune on a Sun X2270. With Debian installed, this box runs my TF2 and TeamSpeak servers beautifully, so I doubt that I will be running any servers under OSX in the near or distant future.