[BBG_Theory]

Wliu, we are talking about this backchannel, and I thought it would be best to get the info on this topic in a tread.


Friagram's clone attack fix:
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showth...t=clone+attack


what are we doing going forward and with what config layout should we use?
Friagram's fix did indeed fix it so clones were not just the 1st boss on the list

What is going to be the new standard boss config wise with this?


example from CandyMan using Friagram's 1rst set abilities

 "ability1"        
 { 
  "plugin_name" "ff2_1st_set_abilities"
  "name" "rage_cloneattack"
  "arg1" "5"
  "arg2" "models\player\wonka.mdl"
  "arg3" " WoOoah More Candy Men!"
  "arg4" "0.5"
  "arg5" "tf_weapon_bonesaw"
  "arg6" "317"
  "arg7" ""
 }

How should this be changed to be compatable with current stock 1rst_set_abilities if switching from Friagram's style and is the cloneattack now fixed in stock?

[xXDeathreusXx]

Originally Posted by BBG_Theory Wliu, we are talking about this backchannel, and I thought it would be best to get the info on this topic in a tread. Friagram's clone attack fix: https://forums.alliedmods.net/showth...t=clone+attack what are we doing going forward and with what config layout should we use? Friagram's fix did indeed fix it so clones were not just the 1st boss on the list What is going to be the new standard boss config wise with this? example from CandyMan using Friagram's 1rst set abilities "ability1" { "plugin_name" "ff2_1st_set_abilities" "name" "rage_cloneattack" "arg1" "5" "arg2" "models\player\wonka.mdl" "arg3" " WoOoah More Candy Men!" "arg4" "0.5" "arg5" "tf_weapon_bonesaw" "arg6" "317" "arg7" "" } How should this be changed to be compatable with current stock 1rst_set_abilities if switching from Friagram's style and is the cloneattack now fixed in stock?

All of the arg's from the original clone attack is kept, and none were added last I checked, he had planned to add args for health, and ammo, but should be the same. It's reading it's parent owners model string last I recall, so it doesn't need to be told what model to use.

I could be wrong, don't quote me on it.

[Wliu]

If I remember correctly, it's still slightly hardcoded to Seeldier (if you don't change any of the args), but almost anything should work (I've spawned pan medics w/ Ninja Spy skin, normal heavies with Brass Beast, Seeman engies with pistols...). The only change I didn't include (I believe) was the hint text.

[friagram]

Make sure it doesn't target spectators, and returns dead players to their teams.
Actually the original ff2 plugin for this had a bug that would constantly force players to the non boss team, even during warmup and when ff2 was inactive. Should add in a check for that on player death to check roundstate. I forget what I did, but whatever I posted was just a quick fix, so not sure if that works properly.

[WildCard65]

Originally Posted by friagram Make sure it doesn't target spectators, and returns dead players to their teams. Actually the original ff2 plugin for this had a bug that would constantly force players to the non boss team, even during warmup and when ff2 was inactive. Should add in a check for that on player death to check roundstate. I forget what I did, but whatever I posted was just a quick fix, so not sure if that works properly.

like this? https://github.com/50DKP/FF2-Official/issues/35

[friagram]

Idk.
Ff2 works, but its coded so very poorly.
It wouldn't be that hard to rewrite it from scratch, but not everything would be the same, and everyone would complain about this... So maintenance seems to be the safe course.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by friagram Idk. Ff2 works, but its coded so very poorly. It wouldn't be that hard to rewrite it from scratch, but not everything would be the same, and everyone would complain about this... So maintenance seems to be the safe course.

Yes, I've noticed people complain when you rewrite things. Especially if you fix bugs.

Hell, one of the people who complained when I fixed a bunch of prop offsets and timer stuff in PropHunt is a moderator of this board!

[WildCard65]

In FF2, none of the files are cached into variables O_O

[friagram]

Keyvalues4life

Hey powerlord, was it you trying to change the view offsets, or just the prop offsets?
I tried changing view but it only seems to work if players are crouching, otherwise it gets constantly reset... I think postthinkpost worked sort of, but then it would constantly set it back all the time.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by friagram Keyvalues4life Hey powerlord, was it you trying to change the view offsets, or just the prop offsets? I tried changing view but it only seems to work if players are crouching, otherwise it gets constantly reset... I think postthinkpost worked sort of, but then it would constantly set it back all the time.

Just prop offsets... I was only making it so the props themselves rested on top of the ground level, with certain exceptions (chimneys).

Certain other props were lowered a few hammer units so they didn't look like they were "floating"... hay piles and the control point to name two.