[Hawk552]

Originally Posted by vittu You are beginning to miss the point and just go in a total opposite direction which is bad in itself, this is not an anti-fakemeta crusade. Fakemeta is fine to use it's not a no no and in fact you can do things with it that you are not able to with engine.

Originally Posted by arkshine Indeed. We should use forward/natives provided intelligently depending the need and whatever the module.

Completely agreed. Let's not get an "Engine high" going.

[Speed!]

Its really weird to us, those who are pretty "new" here, to use engine, whereas we have used fakemeta always. I must admit that I've never coded in engine, just seen some old plugins in fakemeta. I've ever noticed that thing from many scripters that forced us to use fakemeta since it was "better" though

[anakin_cstrike]

All this years everybody (Except Hawk) thought that fakemeta way was faster

Except me too
I just had to use fakemeta 'cause everybody said "use fm instead of engine", "omg, fun and fakemeta?!".

Very nice topic anyway, good job.

[ot_207]

Originally Posted by vittu You are beginning to miss the point and just go in a total opposite direction which is bad in itself, this is not an anti-fakemeta crusade. Fakemeta is fine to use it's not a no no and in fact you can do things with it that you are not able to with engine.

Originally Posted by ot_207 And remember this tutorial does not want to say not to use fakemeta! It advises to use it only when it needs to be used!

Yon didn't see my conclusion... I said that just for fun, I didn't meant it seriously ...
Edit:Today or tomorror I will do some updates to this tutorial ;).
Edit2: Updated it! Waiting for opinions .

[SchlumPF*]

small typo: Client_PreThink(id)-> client_PreThink(id)

[ot_207]

Originally Posted by SchlumPF* small typo: Client_PreThink(id)-> client_PreThink(id)

Done . If you have any suggestions or find any other mistakes feel free to post them ;).

[MeRcyLeZZ]

This might be what originated the "fakemeta-conversion" trend:

Originally Posted by BAILOPAN The last biggest change is the introduction of a module which will eventually replace "Engine". Dubbed "FakeMeta" after its AMX Mod X core counterpart, it is a module forged from a number of sources and ideas and allows for nearly unlimited access to the Half-Life engine (hooking, calling, and changing any data). Plugin writers should study the power offered by FakeMeta once it is released and work to convert their plugins, as it will offer optimization in code, better looking source, and faster development time. (source)

[ot_207]

Originally Posted by MeRcyLeZZ This might be what originated the "fakemeta-conversion" trend:

Yeah but with this tutorial the trend is over. . Now people will think what to use before making a plugin.

[hleV]

I'm staying with FM. I mean I wont use Engine, Fun or w/e. CStrike is good though.

[ot_207]

Originally Posted by hleV I'm staying with FM. I mean I wont use Engine, Fun or w/e. CStrike is good though.

FM has the good forwards and the pev functions are good, the stocks that fakemeta util provide are useless when other modules offer such functions ...