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m22b
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Old 09-19-2015 , 18:09   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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it's starts again

now ban = 3 months !!

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Old 09-19-2015 , 18:11   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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it's starts again

now ban = 3 months !!
Indeed, someone told me that this wave of blacklists remain in-tact until December 1st.
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Old 09-20-2015 , 00:16   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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Are they blacklisting based off the tags, or have they found another way of detecting the plugin?
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Old 09-20-2015 , 01:10   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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Are they blacklisting based off the tags, or have they found another way of detecting the plugin?
This is the real question here. I've been in several servers lately that still have both the knife and weapon paints plugin, and they seem to be doing just fine.
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Old 09-20-2015 , 01:16   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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Are they blacklisting based off the tags, or have they found another way of detecting the plugin?
Likely still tags
They should scan hostnames
http://www.gametracker.com/search/?s...hipp=50#search
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Old 09-20-2015 , 07:53   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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Valve still doesn't give a fuck about this they just do what they want and what its easy for them = block servers with tag gotta remmember for the rest of my life to never create a knife server and add it to the tags lel damn retards
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Old 09-20-2015 , 08:07   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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Valve still doesn't give a fuck about this they just do what they want and what its easy for them = block servers with tag gotta remmember for the rest of my life to never create a knife server and add it to the tags lel damn retards
Remember to say thanks to the people abusing the system... If they didn't do that, .....
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Old 09-20-2015 , 08:10   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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Remember to say thanks to the people abusing the system... If they didn't do that, .....
They deserve the blacklist and I even think it should a permanent but not permanent like until 2220/12/02 but valve should find a good way to block them for once not by tags but if they patch it with updates there goes sourcemod down the drain..
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Old 09-20-2015 , 09:33   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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they should implement overwatch system like they did for players but for servers
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Old 09-20-2015 , 10:15   Re: Valve Blocking Servers now
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I very highly doubt Valve actually has systems to check the bytecode the SM VM is running (which in turn can be used to determine what plugins are being used). They likely are taking the "we'll ban servers with the method that has the highest accuracy:effort ratio". (So piss poor accurate detection methods that took them barely any time to implement are probably being used. At least that would explain how some servers never got banned while others were wrongly banned.)

Empty out your tags and change your hostname to make it not obvious you have knife givers. They may have some regex scanner running through the master server every now and then.

As one additional precaution step, on all economy given plugins, change the data in "public Plugin myinfo" to something that makes it not obvious it's a knife or skin plugin so that typing "sm plugins list" doesn't return anything that looks like a knife plugin is installed. I doubt Valve looks at that output but it is another easy way to catch your server on fire. If you block off all the obvious places that Valve can easily check/query your server for with no effort (hostname and tags cvars being examples), you likely will avoid the blacklist ban.

Think like Valve. "What is the cheapest and easiest way to ban servers with knife givers [within 50% accuracy] with the least amount of effort on our part?" (First 2 answers should be checking hostname & tags.)

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