[Cthen]

Originally Posted by King Cnut I can guarantee it's these 2 plugins crashing the server: DOX them post haste and all will be good.

I probably should have been more specific, those are gone along with anything depending on them when I removed tf2items. I did remove the bot weapon randomizer as well seeing this server did not have bots.

The really odd thing is the other server that has bots, is stable with those still running. Really odd I tell ya.

[Benoist3012]

I guess your are talking about the server of nighteam or saigns.de, they have probably a modified version of bot weapon randomizer and they have droped tf2itemsinfo from dependencies

[Cthen]

Originally Posted by Benoist3012 I guess your are talking about the server of nighteam or saigns.de, they have probably a modified version of bot weapon randomizer and they have droped tf2itemsinfo from dependencies

I am talking about MY OWN Turbine server that has no bots in which I removed the plugin Bot Weapon Randomizer and all dependancies with it including Tf2items and Tf2itemsINFO. Now MY practice server that runs a custom map does have bots and all that stuff still installed on it. However, that one is stable and does not crash. That is what is baffling me. Why is MY Turbine server crashing but not the other?

[Potato Uno]

Dupe the install of the stable server and run it as the practice server.

[Cthen]

Originally Posted by Potato Uno Dupe the install of the stable server and run it as the practice server.

I guess that is another detail I didn't mention lol. That is what I did just removing the rtd and human crits plugins for normal gameplay on Turbine. The only other difference is that I changed the map. I didn't need 2 practice servers.

I have been trying to avoid the tedious task of a new install but it seems that may have to happen here soon if I can't find a fix.

[Potato Uno]

You can also try installing accelerator and get the stack trace, but the report might be too technical to understand. It is worth a try if you're desperate.

[King Cnut]

Originally Posted by Potato Uno You can also try installing accelerator and get the stack trace, but the report might be too technical to understand. It is worth a try if you're desperate.

Accelerator is completely useless for 99% of the people running servers. And you'll struggle getting anyone's attention that can make sense of the trace.

As tedious as it is, you would experience less frustration and wasted time just duplicating/reinstalling.

[WildCard65]

What's your TF2Items version? Can we get an output of: sm exts list