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Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?


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Krhyme
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Old 05-23-2016 , 16:42   Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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Hi Guys,

I'll be using SMAC to run a tournament soon. Testing it out on my servers, and things seem to be fine.

But I was wondering what your thoughts are. Is it still a reliable anti-cheat for tournaments? I hear of many false-positives.
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Old 05-24-2016 , 04:51   Re: Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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This is an interesting question. The only thing is: at the moment there is nothing like it
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Old 05-24-2016 , 15:13   Re: Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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It is, as long as you're using the latest development version. 0.8.5.1 is very outdated and has false positives.
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Krhyme
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Old 05-27-2016 , 06:26   Re: Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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It is, as long as you're using the latest development version. 0.8.5.1 is very outdated and has false positives.
Thanks allienaded - while I have you here would you PLEASSSEEE be able to tell me something about false positives with SMAC? I have the latest version 0.8.6.0

Are these legit?

L 05/14/2016 - 005:01: [smac_eyetest.smx | 0.8.6.0] ♔Dana ♔ (ID: STEAM_1:0:XXXXXX | IP: 94.XX.XX.XX) is suspected of reusing old movement commands. CmdNum: 1 PrevCmdNum: 68605 | [111792:111793:111810]
Map: de_dust2 | Origin: -1076 -843 132 | Angles: 8 136 0 | Weapon: weapon_glock | Team: 2 | Latency: 98ms

L 05/24/2016 - 18:08:22: [smac_speedhack.smx | 0.8.6.0] Crazy (ID: STEAM_1:1:XXXXXX | IP: XX.XX.1XX.2XX) is suspected of using speedhack.
Map: cs_italy | Origin: 794 382 -159 | Angles: 0 -46 0 | Weapon: weapon_glock | Team: 2 | Latency: 27ms


Would really appreciate any assistant you can provide here.
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Old 05-27-2016 , 10:58   Re: Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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Looks like a false positive to me.
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Old 05-27-2016 , 19:48   Re: Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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L 05/14/2016 - 005:01: [smac_eyetest.smx | 0.8.6.0] ♔Dana ♔ (ID: STEAM_1:0:XXXXXX | IP: 94.XX.XX.XX) is suspected of reusing old movement commands. CmdNum: 1 PrevCmdNum: 68605 | [111792:111793:111810]
Map: de_dust2 | Origin: -1076 -843 132 | Angles: 8 136 0 | Weapon: weapon_glock | Team: 2 | Latency: 98ms
Make sure you have smac_eyetest_compat "1" in your smac.cfg, this looks like it could be a false positive caused by using smac_eyetest_compat "0". I recommend deleting your smac.cfg and letting the plugin recreate it so you can be sure you start off with the correct defaults for 0.8.6.0.

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L 05/24/2016 - 18:08:22: [smac_speedhack.smx | 0.8.6.0] Crazy (ID: STEAM_1:1:XXXXXX | IP: XX.XX.1XX.2XX) is suspected of using speedhack.
Map: cs_italy | Origin: 794 382 -159 | Angles: 0 -46 0 | Weapon: weapon_glock | Team: 2 | Latency: 27ms
Speedhack detections can be caused by lag, but the main point of the speedhack module is that it actually prevents speedhacks from working. Speedhack detections however aren't a reliable way to say if someones cheating or not and that's why there is no option to kick/ban for those detections.

Last edited by allienaded; 05-27-2016 at 19:57. Reason: typo
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Krhyme
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Old 05-28-2016 , 05:22   Re: Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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Make sure you have smac_eyetest_compat "1" in your smac.cfg, this looks like it could be a false positive caused by using smac_eyetest_compat "0". I recommend deleting your smac.cfg and letting the plugin recreate it so you can be sure you start off with the correct defaults for 0.8.6.0.



Speedhack detections can be caused by lag, but the main point of the speedhack module is that it actually prevents speedhacks from working. Speedhack detections however aren't a reliable way to say if someones cheating or not and that's why there is no option to kick/ban for those detections.
Thanks allienaded. My smac_eyetest_compat was already "1". I will redelete smac.cfg to make sure.

And thanks for the clarification on speedhack.

Any plans for continuing the development of SMAC to further versions? I believe myself, as well as most server operators who have experienced the difficulties of dealing with anti-cheats, would be willing to support such a move.
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Old 05-29-2016 , 12:41   Re: Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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Any plans for continuing the development of SMAC to further versions? I believe myself, as well as most server operators who have experienced the difficulties of dealing with anti-cheats, would be willing to support such a move.
I hope so. Development hasn't officially been ended yet even though the site has been down for around a month now.
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Old 05-31-2016 , 14:13   Re: Is SMAC still a reliable anti-cheat for tournments?
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latest is 8.6.0
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