[AmineKyo]

Originally Posted by ^SmileY Changes it is to fix a new updates with a hlds, because a delay in metamod-p updates but, the metamod-p was relased before metamod AM and it is newer than he.

Wrong sir. http://sourceforge.net/p/metamod-p/code/commit_browser

Added support for new engine function: EngCheckParm. (from Metamod 1.21-am)

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So it means that Metamod-AM has nothing changed or optimized, it is only modified to support the latest HLDS build.
and it means also, -AM came out before Metamod is updated?

[^SmileY]

Originally Posted by AmineKyo Wrong sir. http://sourceforge.net/p/metamod-p/code/commit_browser -- So it means that Metamod-AM has nothing changed or optimized, it is only modified to support the latest HLDS build. and it means also, -AM came out before Metamod is updated?

wrong, for me the source code is useless becault we talking about a metamod binary, and is really newe (Not because any change or feature or performance)

Binaries -->

http://sourceforge.net/projects/meta...-P%20Binaries/

[kwpd]

I use the version 1.21-AM
The error arises @svc_bad@ when changing the map with 28 players online.
testing for this week .. later notice.

[Arkshine]

^SmileY, what's wrong with you ? Why are you insisting about metamod-p when it seems you have no idea what you're talking about ? The binaries 1.20p36 and 1.21p37 are just to fix 1.20p35 broken release. What you say is completely irrelevant, and I'm not sure what you're are trying to achieve/prove.

[^SmileY]

Originally Posted by Arkshine ^SmileY, what's wrong with you ? Why are you insisting about metamod-p when it seems you have no idea what you're talking about ? The binaries 1.20p36 and 1.21p37 are just to fix 1.20p35 broken release. What you say is completely irrelevant, and I'm not sure what you're are trying to achieve/prove.

Yes it is the point! Irrelevant, really is...

Newer or older than metamod am 1.21 i using it without problems, but this is more newer than metamod AM in binaries relase, it is only this. Nothing more.

LOL..

Sorry about my explanation, because i not have a correct terms in english to explain to any member understand correctly.

[seriousspot]

Originally Posted by ^SmileY Yes it is the point! Irrelevant, really is... Newer or older than metamod am 1.21 i using it without problems, but this is more newer than metamod AM in binaries relase, it is only this. Nothing more. LOL.. Sorry about my explanation, because i not have a correct terms in english to explain to any member understand correctly.

I don't really care you using this very well or not, since its 3rd party, you have research first instead confusing people.

[Arkshine]

Your english is fine, that's not the issue here. It would seem just you did not understand few things as most of your affirmations above were wrong.

Facts :

- Metamod-AM was released before Metamod and Metamod-P
- Metamod-P is not more outdated as it has been updated now.
- Metamod-P has more recent releases to fix the original broken release. Basically 2 months+ later, -p is finally working as expected...
- Just because Metamod-P has more recent release doesn't mean it's better.
- Metamod-P has more chance to lead to problems (crash, instability) because of aggressive optimization.
- If you're running -p version and it's working fine as it is, there is no need to switch to -AM or official version.
- Please stop to insist that it has newer binaries or something, which is completely irrelevant.

Now let's back to the topic

@kwpd, you should give more informations on what you have installed, what's running, etc. (meta list, amxx list, amxx modules, version, etc.)

[dFF]

This thread is not about Metamod-AM and Metamod-p. Metamod-AM or Metamod-p does not create svc_bad error.

svc_bad caused by badly plugins coded.

If i remember correctly cs_set_user_model can caused svc_bad error when it's >16 players on server . . . (not sure after news updates)

[^SmileY]

Originally Posted by dFF This thread is not about Metamod-AM and Metamod-p. Metamod-AM or Metamod-p does not create svc_bad error. svc_bad caused by badly plugins coded. If i remember correctly cs_set_user_model can caused svc_bad error when it's >16 players on server . . . (not sure after news updates)

heheh, kwp has this function in your code

[sylar02]

Originally Posted by dFF Post output of: amxx plugins svc_bad - is most caused by 3rd plugins. My suggestion is to review your pluins. Also, what about to use metamod-1.21-am ? Tested and i have no problems with metamod 1.21-am.

when looking at plugins, what exactly do i need to look for?

I get this message on my servers since feb updates. all plugins are same, error comes and goes, sometimes it doesnt come for entire night, other times it happens every hour.

could message_begin with MSG_ONE cause this issue?