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Maxximou5
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Old 10-04-2013 , 13:23   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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Just throwing in my opinion, you will have more success with Debian over CentOS with any steam/valve related issues. If you want to be adventurous try using Slackware, which is the official Distro Valve uses for it's servers. Ubuntu's constant updates can break a lot of user-end problems, not to mention system problems, which is the cause of my switch. If you do go with Ubuntu, stick with 12.04 or earlier, 13.04 has caused a lot of problems for a lot of users (Google will show you this as well).
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Old 10-04-2013 , 15:28   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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im pretty sure valve always used ubuntu
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Old 10-04-2013 , 15:32   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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im pretty sure valve always used ubuntu
You are right in that; however, recent conversations have been said that they've made the move to Slackware for dedicated servers. This was specifically regarding CS:GO though.
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Old 10-04-2013 , 18:38   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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Can some of you post a link to where I download Debian 7 install .iso?

I cant fint the iso on the homepage.

I'm only finding this, but I have no idea which one is the right one. Sorry for being so dumb

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debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-1.iso 2013-06-16 01:43 649M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-2.iso 2013-06-16 01:43 645M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-3.iso 2013-06-16 01:43 646M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-4.iso 2013-06-16 01:43 645M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-5.iso 2013-06-16 01:43 568M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-6.iso 2013-06-16 01:43 643M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-7.iso 2013-06-16 01:43 634M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-8.iso 2013-06-16 01:43 644M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso 2013-06-16 01:07 621M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-lxde-CD-1.iso 2013-06-16 01:07 644M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso 2013-06-16 01:06 222M
[ ] debian-7.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso 2013-06-16 01:07 645M
[ ] debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-CD-1.iso 2013-06-16 05:11 639M
[ ] debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-CD-2.iso 2013-06-16 05:11 480M
[ ] debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-CD-3.iso 2013-06-16 05:11 642M
[ ] debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-CD-4.iso 2013-06-16 05:12 643M
[ ] debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-CD-5.iso
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Old 10-04-2013 , 18:53   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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debian-7.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso

http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

can't figure out the download link, your gonna have a bad time.

no wait... were gonna have a bad time.

@ Powerlord debian has different 'releases' you can run at any time, up to experimental, with all the latest and greatest... but it could be buggy !

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Old 10-04-2013 , 18:58   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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debian-7.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso

http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

can't figure out the download link, your gonna have a bad time.

no wait... were gonna have a bad time.

@ Powerlord debian has different 'releases' you can run at any time, up to experimental, with all the latest and greatest... but it could be buggy !
No you are not. I know linux and have used it for hosting servers back in 2008. But to 'help' me finding a page with 10 download-links and not giving me a clue of which one I should download is not helping.

Thanks anyway, for the answer I was seeking.
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Old 10-04-2013 , 18:59   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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@ Powerlord debian has different 'releases' you can run at any time, up to experimental, with all the latest and greatest... but it could be buggy !
I'm aware of that... I've used debian sid (unstable) before, and they're not joking about it being unstable.
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Old 10-05-2013 , 10:07   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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I386 and i686 are both 32 bit but they can handle 8gigs of ram with a PAE kernel just fine. Amd64 is the name of the architecture only, Intel uses the architecture designed by AMD. However there is ia64 too but that won't work on your cpu so don't even try
Can you explain why you would use i386 when you have a machine with 8 GB RAM? That really makes no sense to me at all. All my servers are CentOS 6.4 AMD64 and they run SRCDS fine without any issues as long as you disable SELinux and install the 32-bit libraries required to run the server. It's not like 64-bit Linux can only run 64-bit binaries.

So go for AMD64. Valve even explains it on their website:

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/..._Linux_systems

So all you do on debian is apt-get install ia32-libs and of you go.

On CentOS x64 what I do is:

yum install compat-libstdc++-296.i686 (x86 compatibility, required for Steam & L4D).
yum install zlib.i686 (x86 version of zlib, required for Sourcemod).

That's it! I would recommend CentOS 64-bit myself btw.
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Old 10-05-2013 , 11:17   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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Can you explain why you would use i386 when you have a machine with 8 GB RAM? That really makes no sense to me at all. All my servers are CentOS 6.4 AMD64 and they run SRCDS fine without any issues as long as you disable SELinux and install the 32-bit libraries required to run the server. It's not like 64-bit Linux can only run 64-bit binaries.

So go for AMD64. Valve even explains it on their website:

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/..._Linux_systems

So all you do on debian is apt-get install ia32-libs and of you go.

On CentOS x64 what I do is:

yum install compat-libstdc++-296.i686 (x86 compatibility, required for Steam & L4D).
yum install zlib.i686 (x86 version of zlib, required for Sourcemod).

That's it! I would recommend CentOS 64-bit myself btw.
first of all, if you disable selinux then just go and use debian. i didnt read further cause at the point where you told him to disable selinux you already showed me you have no idea why you are using centos in the first place. also, you want to use 32 bit because if you run 32 bit applications exclusively you dont use 64 bit because it uses more ram and more space on disk. however i told him if he would install other stuff like apache and mysql then he should use 64 bit...
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Old 10-05-2013 , 14:17   Re: Changing to Linux - Which distribution?
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first of all, if you disable selinux then just go and use debian. i didnt read further cause at the point where you told him to disable selinux you already showed me you have no idea why you are using centos in the first place. also, you want to use 32 bit because if you run 32 bit applications exclusively you dont use 64 bit because it uses more ram and more space on disk. however i told him if he would install other stuff like apache and mysql then he should use 64 bit...
So If you disable SELinux then you shouldn't use CentOS, that's what you're saying? So people, businesses, everybody only runs CentOS just because of SELinux? There are perhaps 100 more reasons for me and others to choose CentOS over Debian, not just because of SELinux.

Anyway since you advice somebody with an 8 GB box to use a 32-bit operating system I won't take any offense for you calling me a noob.

And you're right 64 bit uses more ram and more disk but hmmm let me see he only has 8 GB RAM and 500 GB disk space so yeah go for 32 bit because you might run out of that very quickly.....

Running 32-bit with a PAE kernel while you have enough resources is just stupid. I guess you're running Windows 7 32-bit on your home PC as well right?
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