[Psyk0tik]

Originally Posted by jking Yeah funny how that seems to happen eh? If it ain't broke ...I call it as I see it. Just testing on Docks atm, without old CM enabled, and using the .vpk on server and client, I get all 8 unique characters. Interesting to see if this new version of CM at all conflicts with Merudo's Survivor Chat Select 1.6.1 cvar, PHP Code: // Change new bots to least prevalent survivor? 1:Enable, 0:Disable // - // Default: "1" // Minimum: "0.000000" // Maximum: "1.000000" l4d_scs_botschange "1"

Any old/new plugins that includes features which either fix the identity of bots or change their models WILL conflict with Character Manager.

This includes but is not limited to:

1. ABM (NgBUCKWangs)
2. Survivor Chat Select (Merudo)
3. Identity Fix (Merudo)

[Spirit_12]

Originally Posted by Crasher_3637 Any old/new plugins that includes features which either fix the identity of bots or change their models WILL conflict with Character Manager. This includes but is not limited to: 1. ABM (NgBUCKWangs) 2. Survivor Chat Select (Merudo) 3. Identity Fix (Merudo)

I don't want to look at the code and act like an entitled individual. Can you please let me know the reasoning behind it?

[Lux]

Originally Posted by Spirit_12 I don't want to look at the code and act like an entitled individual. Can you please let me know the reasoning behind it?

Do it you're entitled to read that code!

[Psyk0tik]

Originally Posted by Spirit_12 I don't want to look at the code and act like an entitled individual. Can you please let me know the reasoning behind it?

Those plugins listed conflict with Character Manager because they all include features that Character Manager already takes care of. That is why Lux listed them on the main post. He can go into more detail with that stuff since it's his code.

Originally Posted by Lux [...] Stuff Not to use with: ABM https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2477820 don't use with abm's cvar enabled (abm_identityfix 1 or abm_automodel 1) Identity fix https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=280539 Don't use identity fix with this plugin this plugin has it's own for clients Left 4 Downtown will cause the detour the fail either use one or the other not both https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=134032 Survivor Chat Select 1.6.1 (Forked) https://forums.alliedmods.net/showth...63#post2399163 don't use with cvar l4d_scs_botschange 1 will cause this plugin to be useless Other than that if you don't use any of these plugins or any of these types of plugin at all no need to worry about conflicts. however i should not really have to do this you should know what you install on your server! [...]

[Spirit_12]

Originally Posted by Lux Left 4 Downtown will cause the detour the fail either use one or the other not both https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=134032

Actually, using this with Downtown on Linux won't break anything. On the Windows side it will, but I might be able to wildcard the bytes to make sure it will fully compatible with Downtown.

[Psyk0tik]

Originally Posted by Spirit_12 Actually, using this with Downtown on Linux won't break anything. On the Windows side it will, but I might be able to wildcard the bytes to make sure it will fully compatible with Downtown.

I'd appreciate it if you could do that. Lux already wild-carded the signature for me twice and I still couldn't get it to work on Windows. xD

[Spirit_12]

Originally Posted by Crasher_3637 I'd appreciate it if you could do that. Lux already wild-carded the signature for me twice and I still couldn't get it to work on Windows. xD

Ok, here is my attempt. Not tested or anything so let me know if it works or not. Although I don't see a reason for it not to work. Just wildcarded the first 4 bytes and added 2 more at the end to still keep it unique.

PHP Code:

\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x8B\x0D\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x8B\x01\x8B\x50\x2A\x53\x56\xBB

? ? ? ? 8B 0D ? ? ? ? 8B 01 8B 50 ? 53 56 BB 


[Silvers]

Originally Posted by Spirit_12 PHP Code: \x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x8B\x01\x8B\x50\x2A\x53\x56\xBB ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 8B 01 8B 50 ? 53 56 BB

Need to wildcard first 6 bytes (I've seen 8 for some things) to work with detours.

[Lux]

Originally Posted by Spirit_12 Ok, here is my attempt. Not tested or anything so let me know if it works or not. Although I don't see a reason for it not to work. Just wildcarded the first 4 bytes and added 2 more at the end to still keep it unique. PHP Code: \x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x8B\x0D\x2A\x2A\x2A\x2A\x8B\x01\x8B\x50\x2A\x53\x56\xBB ? ? ? ? 8B 0D ? ? ? ? 8B 01 8B 50 ? 53 56 BB

I tried 4 bytes it don't work

Originally Posted by Silvers Need to wildcard first 6 bytes (I've seen 8 for some things) to work with detours.

Dont work :c

I found a solution that works!
Delete downtown

[jking]

Originally Posted by Crasher_3637 Those plugins listed conflict with Character Manager because they all include features that Character Manager already takes care of. That is why Lux listed them on the main post. He can go into more detail with that stuff since it's his code.

Right, I figured as much from much trial and error and only after was his OP edited following our responses here and here...

Also, Edison1318 should edit his All 8 Survivors For Windows thread accordingly in light of this thread's updates and other information posted in his thread and it looks like he's headed in that direction. I've since removed Downtown and things are running smoothly with no errors thrown.

With no more Survivor Chat Select or Downtown2 and running newest Character Manager 1.3.1 (l4d2_survivor_set "3") now, here's my list and again all seems fine now...

sm plugins list
[SM] Listing 60 plugins:
  01 "Admin File Reader" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  02 "Admin Help" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  03 "Admin Menu" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  04 "Anti-Flood" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  05 "Basic Ban Commands" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  06 "Basic Chat" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  07 "Basic Comm Control" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  08 "Basic Commands" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  09 "Basic Info Triggers" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  10 "Basic Votes" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  11 "Client Preferences" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  12 "[L4D2] Defib using bots" (1.6) by DeathChaos25
  13 "Fun Commands" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  14 "Fun Votes" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  15 "Gun Damage Booster" (6.5) by Psyk0tik (Crasher_3637)
  16 "[L4D2] Heavy Gunner Bots" (1.1) by DeathChaos25
  17 "Left 4 Dead 2 Model Changer" (2.0.2) by Lux
  18 "[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike" (1.4) by SilverShot
  19 "[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike - Dead Air" (1.2-da) by SilverShot
  20 "[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike - No Mercy" (1.2-nm) by SilverShot
  21 "[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike - Tank" (1.1-ta) by SilverShot
  22 "[L4D2] F-18 Airstrike - Triggers" (1.2-tr) by SilverShot
  23 "Oshroth's Backpack" (1.0) by MasterMind420, Lux, NGBUCKWANGS, Oshroth
  24 "[L4D2]Character_manager" (1.3.1) by Lux, $atanic $pirit
  25 "L4D2 Gun Control" (2.0) by MasterMind420, AtomicStryker
  26 "[L4D2] Incapped Crawling with Animation" (1.42) by SilverShot, mod by Lux
  27 "[L4D2] Melee Weapon Spawner" (1.2) by SilverShot
  28 "[L4D2] Pistol Reloading" (1.1) by MasterMind420, Ludastar, DeathChaos25, AtomicStryker
  29 "Points System" (1.8.0) by McFlurry & evilmaniac and modified by Psykotik
  30 "[L4D2] Pour Gas" (1.8.1) by SilverShot
  31 "[L4D2] Scavenge Score Fix - Gascan Pouring" (1.2) by SilverShot
  32 "[L4D2] Weather Control" (1.8) by SilverShot
  33 "[L4D2] Survivor Thirdperson" (1.2) by SilverShot
  34 "[L4D2] Save Weapon" (4.3) by MAKS
  35 "[L4D2] Upgrade Packs FIXES" (1.6) by V10
  36 "[L4D2] Vomitjar Shove" (1.4) by SilverShot
  37 "[L4D2] Zoey Unlock" (1.1.1) by SilverShot
  38 "[L4D & L4D2] Health Cabinet" (1.7) by SilverShot
  39 "[L4D & L4D2] Gear Transfer" (1.6.1) by SilverShot
  40 "Multi-Clip Grenade Launcher" (1.3) by Pan Xiaohai
  41 "[L4D & L4D2] Elevator Control" (1.3) by SilverShot
  42 "Machine" (1.07) by Pan Xiaohai
  43 "[L4D & L4D2] Molotov Shove" (1.5) by SilverShot
  44 "Multiple Equipment" (3.6) by MasterMind420 & Ludastar & Pan Xiaohai & Marcus101RR
  45 "[L4D & L4D2] Pipebomb Shove" (1.8) by SilverShot
  46 "[L4D/L4D2] Thirdpersonshoulder Shotgun Sound Fix" (1.1) by MasterMind420, Lux
  47 "Super Versus Reloaded" (1.8.15.5) by DDRKhat, Marcus101RR, and Merudo
  48 "Survivor Bot Select" (1.0) by Merudo
  49 "[L4D & L4D2] Weapon Spawn" (1.4) by SilverShot
  50 "LMC_Black_and_White_Notifier" (2.0.1) by Lux
  51 "LMC_RandomWitch" (1.0) by Lux
  52 "Player Commands" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  53 "[PS] Buy Extended Support Structure" (2.0.0) by McFlurry && evilmaniac and modified by Psykotik
  54 "RandomWitch" (1.0) by Ludastar (Armonic)
  55 "Reserved Slots" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  56 "Scene Processor" (1.33) by Buster "Mr. Zero" Nielsen
  57 "Sound Commands" (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  58 "Survivor Mourns Fix" (1.2) by DeathChaos25
  59 "ThirdPersonShoulder_Detect" (1.4) by MasterMind420 & Lux
  60 "[L4D2]Survivor_Legs_Restore" (1.2.5) by Lux


meta list
Listing 9 plugins:
  [01] L4DToolZ (1.0.0.9h-unknown) by Ivailosp
  [02] SourceMod (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  [03] Stripper (1.2.2) by BAILOPAN
  [04] DefibFix Extension (1.0.1) by V10, Accelerator
  [05] [L4D2] 8+ Players BugFixes (1.0.2) by V10, Accelerator, $atanic $pirit
  [06] [L4D2] Melee Spawn Control (1.0.0.4) by V10
  [07] SDK Tools (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  [08] SDK Hooks (1.9.0.6251) by AlliedModders LLC
  [09] DHooks (2.2.0-detours5) by Dr!fter