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Before I continue this debate, I need some input on if we are talking about local safety from criminals or goverenment control.
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I'm afraid to say that it's the same thing. Politic of fear is the some has gangs, organized crime, whatever. You see it in tv but in real life many people have never crossed themselfs with a mafia gay, a gang menber( and I mean you can walk on suppostly tuff neighberhoods all day all days and never have nothing (I do it every day). Where I live there's 4 or 5 murders every week (center of Caracas). But if you look for trouble you find it right way in question of minutes. Do I fell threaten. Nop, never.
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Thats the point! I see some here understand what i mean

The News on TV and in Newspapers make the people fear the crime...but have you ever witnessed a crime??
I have never seen any crime but drug abuse *lol*
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Guns are good for having fun in the shooting club or in the wild, but to protect a person in a society there have to be other "instruments" like the police and a functional law.
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Or even better culture and incentive to a true meaningfull life. Dont want myself a hummer, bitchs, money in my pocket, a big stereo, 100' TV flat panel, big house with swimming pools and party with my buddies every day, buzz, champagne. That's bullshit! Big one! The American Dream sold every where you go! So what the neigher does? He want's to get rich or die trying.
Isn't that stupid? Gangs dude? What the hell is that?
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Thats true, the more you want the more you do to get it...
the TV shows us sooo many things and we want all...all the stuff which nobody realy needs.
Marketing!!! This shit is publicated to manipulate the people buy more and more!
That's one point because i don't look much TV (i only watch Dr. HOuse *lol*)
Wake up people, say no to the consume...omg that sounds dumb *g*
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and if you smart, you have a .357 in your dresser right next to you for such an event.
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People say: If you are afraid get a dog. But you my dear allenwr should get a dozen. And security cameras, laser detectors, alarms, security guards, bars on the windows and doors, what the hell, an all house maid of steel. Granades under the coach, poiseness gas, a XV century armor, should sleep with a bullet proof jacket, an emergency bunker. Ho man! So lost!
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doon't be so harsh to him...he doesn't know what the system is doing to him.
It lasts a long time till the people realize what the real problem is...
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At regalis, And your government ideas are wrong I dont know about germany, but the United States government has never once in any way said you should go out and buy a gun.
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Nope! Movies and TV do that for the goverment. Lobbys on congress too. Ilusion of safety. So nice!
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And the winner is...

I would go farther...and claim that the TV/RADIO is controlled by the government to manipulate the people..but thats only my humble opinion.
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My parrents did take me hunting, and its not cruel to animals, they dont suffer. they die.
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If you don't eat the animals it's a cruel!
Ok, i'm not innocent at all...i kill flys which nerves me
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And your european shpeal has no links or historical references, nor do I feel that other countries apply here. And if you feel so resentful towards guns, dont buy them, and leave the gun advacates alone.
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Is this correct english because i don't understand what you mean with "shpeal" and with "advacates" !?
I also don't understand what you mean with "And your european shpeal has no links or historical references"?
If you would like to claim that europe doen't have history than you should please tell me how old america is?
Or do you want to say that europe have no history refer to weapons?
Maybe no one need weapons here in good old europe
Don't feel offended...i can't write everything as i would like to (bad english

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greetz regalis
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