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The word "propaganda" is defined as "information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view."
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According to your definition, this is exactly what's happening. Bias for a particular community, and not for others, thus being propaganda.
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It's just a logo and you're reading too deep into it.
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Make our X community a logo too, in that case. Nothing against the LGBTQIA+ community, but what you think is right, might be excluding millions of people who deserve more.
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AlliedModders isn't obligated to be nor does it present itself as a group/organization that brings awareness and attention to different communities/causes/issues/movements.
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Then why should they promote one community over the other?
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If the first thing people think of when they see the colorful logo is "Do I have to be homosexual/non-binary to get special attention" then there's a lot of self-reflection that is well overdue.
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That's what's happening all around you. Read the news, talk to a bunch of people, have debates with them, and you'll get a better picture of the world. If you need any specific examples, you can quote me back.
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AM gains nothing from changing the logo, and yet they do it every year because they celebrate Pride Month.
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They showcase themselves as being advertiser-friendly, and thus can secure certain sponsorships from politically leaning companies, than those who wouldn't make the change. Even then, propaganda doesn't have to be profitable, see Twitter.
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You're making baseless assumptions about the AM community when I doubt you've actually talked to a majority of the members here. Not everyone needs to publicly come out as LGBTQIA+ just to prove that they identify as such.
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I never made any baseless assumptions about anyone. The general consensus is, if you even remotely talk about the LGBTQIA+ community that doesn't fit in their agenda, you'll be ostracized and bullied, receive backlash from people, lose your job, and be a victim to cancel culture. This is what makes people afraid to stand up and rationally argue their positions about the case.
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You mentioned religion, guns, and abortion, so I'll explain why all three of those are irrelevant.
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You're enforcing your belief onto others that special treatment must be given to a particular community, just because you feel it's right. This can be done for almost every other community, because you feel inclined towards it.
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If AM were to enforce their views onto all of us in regards to those 3 topics, then I would agree that it's a political agenda, but labeling the celebration of Pride Month as such is just extremely disingenuous and absurd.
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Acting as an activist about the LGBTQIA+ community by brandishing a logo is being biased towards a particular ideology, and that's pretty much a political agenda like the ones I mentioned above. Being non-partisan about topics like these is what brings unity in a chaotic world.
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So then we're all in agreement that the LGBTQIA+ community is allowed to exist and celebrate Pride Month? Celebrating Pride Month only "divides" people if some of them refuse to accept the existence of others.
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People can do whatever they like in their personal lives, however pushing one agenda over the other on a public forum, isn't what I consider morally correct. If you are inclusive towards one community, you should be inclusive towards many others, because every person has such inclinations. This is not plausible in the long run, and therefore, pleasing a particular community over the other is problematic. As a community that oversees hundreds of thousands of people who're here to script and develop interesting things, this divides people more than you'd imagine.
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I get what you're trying to say, and I do share the same sentiment that we should all be treated equally. However, changing the logo to celebrate Pride Month isn't "glorifying" a particular group over everyone else.
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At least we have a common-ground on this topic. Everyone must be treated fairly and equally without a personal or political bias. But when you treat someone else more favorably than the other, I find that to be an issue. Based on conversations I've had with people who belong in the LGBTQIA+ community publicly, many of them can see through the hypocrisy of this.
"Why can't we have pride everyday, instead of just one month?" is what most people feel. Placing a logo starting June 1st and then ending on August 1st doesn't do anything but make the LGBTQIA+ community feel excluded all year round. They see that corporations do this to score brownie points and not to really make them feel included.
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I can see how people would see the logo change as "pandering" to the LGBTQIA+ community
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That's exactly the issue here, like I pointed out earlier. Many people hate this idea, because this doesn't bring equality, and also makes people hate themselves for who they are. That's not how you drive a change, that's how you make people fight against each other.
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I didn't see the post before it was removed so I can't really say much about it. Were you explicitly told that it was removed for being off-topic or are you just assuming that's the reason? With how you've described your own post, it sounds like it got removed for something else.
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It was listed as a reason aside my deleted post, with no particular justification or a PM to me as to what they felt was off-topic. It felt as if I made the moderator angry over the posts here, and they wanted to showcase their superiority over me.